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14 year old boy charged as adult in clothes dryer murder |
Nov 4 2009, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE CNN) -- A 14-year-old suspect in the murder of a 4-year-old boy found drowned and then stuffed into a clothes dryer in Mendota, California, has been charged as an adult, authorities said Tuesday. Fresno County, California, District Attorney Elizabeth A. Egan said Raul Renato Castro was charged with special circumstances, including murder during a child molestation, sodomy, kidnapping and murder of a witness to prevent testimony. Castro faces separate felony charges of kidnapping, sodomy and child molestation, Egan said. Under California law, a 14-year-old is not eligible for the death penalty or a sentence of life without the possibility of parole, according to a statement from Egan's office. If found guilty, the boy could receive no more than 32 years to life plus 15 years. The incident began Friday afternoon, when Alex Christopher Mercato's parents discovered that the child, who had been playing outside their house, was missing, Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims told reporters Monday. The parents called police, who began to search the neighborhood and nearby parks in Mendota, 33 miles west of Fresno, she said. Soon, the FBI was called in. On Saturday, authorities resumed the search door-to-door. They did not have to go far. In the house next door to the Mercatos, authorities discovered the boy's body stuffed inside a dryer in a closet, Mims said. An autopsy determined he had drowned. The teenager, who had been the only member of his family who was at home on Friday afternoon, was arrested and booked into the juvenile justice center, Mims said. Castro is the sole suspect in the case, she said. He is to be arraigned Wednesday in Fresno County Superior Court. http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/03/califo...rder/index.html how? |
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Nov 4 2009, 09:36 AM
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![]() Woosh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 4,922 Joined: 9-May 07 Member No.: 11,313 Gender : Male |
He sodomized a 4 year old and drowned him. Sounds about right.
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Nov 4 2009, 09:37 AM
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What is messed up with this world?
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Nov 4 2009, 09:39 AM
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I have no problem with him being tried as an adult.
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Nov 4 2009, 10:06 AM
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Nov 4 2009, 10:25 AM
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![]() Give us a scream. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 8,589 Joined: 27-August 07 From: Iridonia Member No.: 13,236 Gender : Female Name : Rave |
Total Depravity and he was not brought up in the ways of the Lord. Isaiah, do you really think that all NonChristians (of any faith) would feel this behaviour is acceptable and may engage in it? Since they are not brought up as you say? Or am I misinterpreting your words? |
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Nov 4 2009, 10:30 AM
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![]() I <3 Diana ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 5,010 Joined: 3-March 07 From: The Breath of Life (Genesis 2:7) Member No.: 10,515 Gender : Male Name : Isaiah |
Isaiah, do you really think that all NonChristians (of any faith) would feel this behaviour is acceptable and may engage in it? Since they are not brought up as you say? Or am I misinterpreting your words? No, but they are all possible of committing such a horrible act or worse. QUOTE The doctrine of total depravity asserts that people are by nature not inclined to love God wholly with heart, mind, and strength, but rather all are inclined by nature to serve their own will and desires and to reject the rule of God. Total depravity does not mean, however, that people are as evil as possible. Rather, it means that even the good which a person may intend is faulty in its premise, false in its motive, and weak in its implementation; and there is no mere refinement of natural capacities that can correct this condition. Thus, even acts of generosity and altruism are in fact egoist acts in disguise Jesus said if you hate your brother without cause you've committed murder, lust after woman you've committed adultery, rebellion is equal to witchcraft, and etc.. I was merely answering his question with what's wrong in this world. This post has been edited by God-Sent: Nov 4 2009, 10:30 AM |
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Nov 4 2009, 10:43 AM
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Nov 4 2009, 11:33 AM
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Nov 4 2009, 11:39 AM
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Definitely should be tried as an adult. That kid knew what he was doing, alright.
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Nov 4 2009, 12:28 PM
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Nov 4 2009, 03:56 PM
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Thanks Isaiah, but it was more of a rhetorical question.
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Nov 4 2009, 04:47 PM
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Nov 4 2009, 05:11 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
Flyingnun; now he'll just say something like "they're not true Christians then". Which is weird; it's possible for everyone to commit terrible acts except "true" Christians. Lol when in reality Christians have committed some of the most atrocious acts in history. You are 100% correct, it has nothing to do with faith.
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Nov 4 2009, 05:32 PM
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![]() Woosh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 4,922 Joined: 9-May 07 Member No.: 11,313 Gender : Male |
Flyingnun; now he'll just say something like "they're not true Christians then". Which is weird; it's possible for everyone to commit terrible acts except "true" Christians. Lol when in reality Christians have committed some of the most atrocious acts in history. You are 100% correct, it has nothing to do with faith. A "true Christian" however, would not do something like this. Neither would a true Muslim, a true Hindu, a true Buddhist, or a true Jew. |
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Nov 4 2009, 05:34 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
But a true agnostic would?
It has absolutely nothing to do with one's faith. What about a true secular humanist? |
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Nov 4 2009, 05:36 PM
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![]() Woosh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 4,922 Joined: 9-May 07 Member No.: 11,313 Gender : Male |
But a true agnostic would? It has absolutely nothing to do with one's faith. What about a true secular humanist? A true secular humanist wouldn't either. As for agnostics, there is no fundamental belief in agnosticism about the sanctity of life. Agnosticism does not involve a moral code. Most religions on the other hand do. It has everything to do with faith. |
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Nov 4 2009, 05:37 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel with him being charged as an adult, I think its safe to say he is sick in the head, either way he should be institutionalized for a looooooooong loonnngggg time.
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Nov 4 2009, 05:41 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
If you believe murder is wrong you wouldn't do this; it has nothing to do with faith. A moral code including believing murder is wrong doesn't require a person to have any religious belief.
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Nov 4 2009, 05:49 PM
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My bad. I didn't actually read the article.
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Nov 4 2009, 07:55 PM
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![]() Woosh ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 4,922 Joined: 9-May 07 Member No.: 11,313 Gender : Male |
If you believe murder is wrong you wouldn't do this; it has nothing to do with faith. A moral code including believing murder is wrong doesn't require a person to have any religious belief. Gah. Please tell me - would a GOOD CHRISTIAN, as in a CHRISTIAN who follows CHRISTIAN beliefs, ever murder someone? Seriously. It doesn't matter that other people believe murder is wrong. The fact of the matter is, if you do something that your religion opposes, you're not very good at your religion. |
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Nov 4 2009, 07:59 PM
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Forget religion for five minutes. The fact of the matter is. He broke the law, and he's being tried as an adult. If we want to argue murder and religion, take it to the debates section guys, this isn't the place for it.
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Nov 4 2009, 09:49 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
"Seriously. It doesn't matter that other people believe murder is wrong. The fact of the matter is, if you do something that your religion opposes, you're not very good at your religion."
and someone who believes murder is ok regardless of theirreligion is just bad at being a good person. |
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Nov 4 2009, 09:53 PM
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Good.
He should be tried as an adult. |
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Nov 5 2009, 01:29 AM
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![]() Give us a scream. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 8,589 Joined: 27-August 07 From: Iridonia Member No.: 13,236 Gender : Female Name : Rave |
A "true Christian" however, would not do something like this. Neither would a true Muslim, a true Hindu, a true Buddhist, or a true Jew. Very true. Usually I am against the "Nae a True Scotsman", but it makes sense in this situation and others similar. A person truly devoted to their faith would not commit these acts due to their devotion. It is very possible for anyone to commit terrible acts against fellow man, but if one is living as an ideal Christian/Muslim/Jew/Hindu/Buddhist/etc, (meaning following the principles of their faith/philosophy devoutly) it wouldn`t happen. However, almost no one is an "ideal" or "model" when it comes to religious faiths and philosophies. |
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