Bet it's more now sadly.

Just so we're clear, that stat includes the aborted fetus. The only way to make that number of deaths bigger is to make abortion illegal.

What does that mean?

Unfortunately, I am not too surprised. Margaret Sanger was a terrible racist against Black people.

Is this a parody of pro-choice people, or are you really just that sad?

Well, I'm not surprised by the abortion stats. According to available data, the most effective means of reducing abortions is to restrict access.

Prohibiting abortion is unconstitutional.

Let's all move on.

I love how you say let's all move on when someone is obviously going to start debating with you. I don't mean that in a rude way, I'm just saying. lol

They can debate against the facts if they wish. =]

Tell me about this.

Not. It is completely constitutional. Murder is unconstitutional and that's what abortion is.

Facts? What facts? How do you prove at what time a person is of age to be considered murder?

This article is very disheartening, but does not come as a shock in today's society.

Sorry, I should have explained myself better. What I was saying, is that the stat includes the aborted fetus, so saying it "Kills more black americans than the seven leading causes of death" is a bit of a misnomer. It's not about death rates, it's about abortion rates. Plus the artical doesn't mention the abortion rates among other races, so I one doesn't even know if it's higher among black people. The entire article was biased. Instead of referring to pro-choice groups as such, they said "pro-abortion". I don't think I've ever met anyone "pro-abortion". No one thinks abortions are a good thing, but rather they believe that the woman has the right to have one if necessary.

Also, I was just reminding people that the number of abortions does not change based on legality. When abortion is illegal, women will just go to back alley abortionists and if something goes wrong they will not seek out medical help for fear of reprocusion, and as a result many die. Abortion being legal does save lives.

If you ever get the chance check out the National Film Board of Canada's documentary on Dr. Henry Morgentaler entitled "Democracy on Trial". It's very well done.

This post has been edited by Max Power: Nov 1 2009, 05:41 PM

You should stop getting your facts from Planned Parenthood.

"Facts? What facts? How do you prove at what time a person is of age to be considered murder? "

the fact us was referring to was the supreme courts decision of abortion prohibition's unconstitutional nature.

Bryce, you are an intelligent young man. You know not everyone obeys the law. I am against abortion, but one does have to realise that women will get abortions, legal or not. I do not think the numbers would be nearly as high, but there is no question they would still happen.

The point is to make it as hard as possible for them to be done. Abortion isn't safe in any form and it's murder anyways.

I agree whole-heartedly. Nor do I think it should be legal.
I was just pointing out that even if they are outlawed, they would still happen (though in smaller numbers).

This post has been edited by Rave87: Nov 1 2009, 06:37 PM

making sure...

It's no going to happen anytime soon; demonizing people simply doesn't help either.

No one is "demonizing" people. Also, "demonizing" is not a word.

Demonize
–verb (used with object), -ized, -iz⋅ing.
1.to turn into a demon or make demonlike.
2.to subject to the influence of demons.
Also, especially British, de⋅mon⋅ise.

It said kills more black Americans. I'd like to see the amount of abortions in correlation to other races. It'd be interesting.

It's likely because of the poor lifestyle of black America and the un-education therein. They have abortions because growing up in those adverse conditions doesn't mean you have the proper resources to support a child.

Remember demon doesn't always mean dark evil spirit however

Abortion is murder.

I'm aware that everything illegal still happens. I'm just also aware that the facts spouted by Planned Parenthood (i.e. their stats that abortions didn't substantially increase with Roe v. Wade) are essentially nothing more than very successful lies. I'd be wary of anything someone says when they have money to make.