thats sad. i reallyw ish people wouldn't abort babies. adoption is a way better option, unless your life is in danger

Rave, you put that very politely, thank you.

Anyways, not stopping something because it wont keep people from doing it is not reasonable at all. Why illegalize anything? People will find a way to do it.

*tips hat*



If something is illegal it will cut down on numbers. I don`t believe the practise of abortion will be fully eradicated.



Well, PP is a business, so their propaganda will contain what it needs to to make money. However, I was just trying to say that even though it is used for business, it did contain a smidgen of truth. That people will get them anyway.

Abortion is not murder. Prohibition of it is unconstituional however.

Adoption isn't as easy as it sounds most of the kids you see in the foster care system don't get adopted and age out at 18 and left to their own devices and often fall into a life of drugs or crime. For those who want abortion banned and they rally for the rights of unborn children how many of these unborn children who end up as kids and teens in the foster care system will they plan on adopting if abortion gets banned. They talk so much about saving the lives of the unborn but what about those who are born and the ones who sit in the foster care system and will probably never end up in a family.

This post has been edited by Glamour_Dollxoxo: Nov 1 2009, 08:31 PM

The difference is that when abortion is legal, it's safer, and less people are harmed.


This post has been edited by Max Power: Nov 1 2009, 08:28 PM

Then murder should be legal.

No it shouldn't.

Oh I agree with you fully.



How do you know?

I fail to understand how making murder legal will be safer and will harm fewer people.

Well, I guess the person doing the murder won't have to risk being scratched or bitten.

Despite that, it's a fairly poor analogy.

How does making murder legal cause less people to be harmed?

The guy doing the Murdering wouldn't be prosecuted and such. Maybe that's what he means.

I still ask the question though: How do we know abortion is not murder?

Abortion is the murder of human babies. Period. You can argue against that until you're blue in the face, but all you're doing is giving into a cunning lie that PP teaches.



In the minds of the pro-choice adherents, it's not murder because any human inside a womb isn't an actual human. Magic happens when the "thing" crowns and it starts to turn into a human. Pro abortionists have to be scientifically illiterate to believe anything around that nonsense.

This post has been edited by Deeper: Nov 2 2009, 02:13 PM

I agree.
Once the baby is outside the womb, nobody seems to care anymore. Never being adopted, or spending your childhood in fostercare can't be a very good experience. If a kid dies, oh that's really sad, but it's worse if someone has an abortion apparently.

1- abortion is murder, funny how the only people in support of abortion have already been born.

2- Prohibiting abortion is not unconstitutional lol!!

you can ban it nationwide with an amendment, but the states have the right to ban it if they want

both paths are well within the confines of the constitution.

Supposedly it's a violation of privacy to tell someone they can't have an abortion. And supposedly the 4th and 9th ammendment give you the 'other rights' that may not be otherwise mentioned. At least that's what they ruled in Roe V. Wade when they legalized it.
However, several states have succeeded in closing a lot of abortion clinics, such as mississippi, they only have one left.

GETTING BACK ON TOPIC


This isn't really new News. We've known this for the past decade. Heck I've known this for the past decade. Abortion effects the Black community more.

It's actually a cunning lie that the government teaches seeing how murder is illegal and abortion isn't. The idea that PP is the perpetrator of all evils is simply illogical.

It started with Margret Sanger. Abortion wasn't founded by the government, it must be taken back to its source. She was not only a racist but a pro-murder advocate who has duped others into believing that a human inside the womb isn't a human but a mass of nothing until it starts to come out of the mothers womb. It's a silly lie that people are buying in to and because of it the murder of over 40 million babies has occurred.

This post has been edited by Deeper: Nov 2 2009, 04:14 PM

Who is not planned parenthood, correct? She may have founded planned parenthood, but she isn't the organization. The government then made an informed decision based on many cases and many advocates to legalize abortion. So while I understand where you are coming from, Planned Parenthood is not the route of all evil when it comes to abortion. Instead if you want to blame any organization for the perpetuation of abortion it should be the government.

Please don't misunderstand me or suggest I said something I haven't. I don't believe I said PP is the route of all evil, but it is a root of a very deep seeded hatred for life. Planned Parent has advocated murder since its founder and may have put on new make up, but the same ugly foul corporation it is now is the same as it was then.

Margret Sanger was the start of it and it has only progressively gotten worse as time has gone on.

Is your last resort in every debate to describe something as "demonizing"? I will make another equally rubbish statement.
Saying that people should be allowed to have abortions is demonizing the pro life lobby.
There we go, now we're even



You've been practicing debating for a long time, I see.

But there's no debating in the news forum, right?

"you can ban it nationwide with an amendment, but the states have the right to ban it if they want"

and the fed govt withholds federal funds from states that try to tump federal laws with their own. if a state wants to hurt their public services this is what they do.

"Is your last resort in every debate to describe something as "demonizing"? "

no; if I notice demonization I just sometimes mention it.

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