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The Book of Enoch, Could it be legitimate? |
Mar 27 2009, 03:10 PM
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![]() Rocking For God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 621 Joined: 28-December 08 From: United States Member No.: 22,329 Gender : Male |
I was reading around online, and I read something about the Book of Enoch. So I did some research on it and found that it was directly quoted from in some place of the New Testament, primarily the Book of Jude. I found a copy of it online, and begun reading it, and to me, it seems plausible. In doing more research, I discovered that the only Christain Church that accepts this as legitimate is the Ethiopian Orthdox Church.
I want to know what you think about it, and if there is any chance it could be real. The link is: http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/ethiop...noch/index.html The Book was supposedly written by the grandfather of Noah, and it focuses on the corruption of the preflooded age, and many other things. |
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Mar 27 2009, 06:10 PM
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![]() Holy Roller ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 746 Joined: 6-August 07 Member No.: 12,868 Gender : Male |
I did quite a bit of research into this when I saw a couple people on this forum discussing this very subject.
I don't remember exactly how I reached my conclusion, but I decided it isn't a perfectly legitimate source. Just because it's quoted in the Bible, doesn't mean it's inspired. Paul quoted a couple different sources in Acts 17, but that doesn't mean those sources were "inspired" as well. This post has been edited by dkkev: Mar 27 2009, 06:10 PM |
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Mar 27 2009, 06:10 PM
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![]() Your friendly neighborhood Catholic ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4,230 Joined: 11-June 08 From: Atlanta, Georgia Member No.: 18,565 Gender : Female |
Well, I found an article about the book, in this article it is refered to as Henoch instead of Enoch, but it is still the same thing, and it kind of explains the story of the book, but it doesn't explain why it loses credit. Here it is:
QUOTE Passing to the patristic writers, the Book of Henoch enjoyed a high esteem among them, mainly owing to the quotation in Jude. The so-called Epistle of Barnabas twice cites Henoch as Scripture. Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Origen, and even St. Augustine suppose the work to be a genuine one of the patriarch. But in the fourth century the Henoch writings lost credit and ceased to be quoted. After an allusion by an author of the beginning of the ninth century, they disappear from view. So great was the oblivion into which they fell that only scanty fragments of Greek and Latin versions were preserved in the West. The complete text was thought to have perished when it was discovered in two Ethiopic manuscripts in Abyssinia, by the traveler Bruce in 1773. Since, several more copies in the same language have been brought to light. Recently a large Greek fragment comprising chapters i-xxxii was unearthed at Akhmîn in Egypt. Scholars agree that the Book of Henoch was originally composed either in Hebrew or Aramaic, and that the Ethiopic version was derived from a Greek one. A comparison of the Ethiopic text with the Akhmîn Greek fragment proves that the former is in general a trustworthy translation. The work is a compilation, and its component parts were written in Palestine by Jews of the orthodox Hasidic or Pharisaic schools. Its composite character appears clearly from the palpable differences in eschatology, in the views of the origin of sin and of the character and importance of the Messias found in portions otherwise marked off from each other by diversities of subject. Critics agree that the oldest portions are those included in chapters i-xxxvi and (broadly speaking) lxxi-civ. (New Advent) Anyway, I guess if God ment for it to be a part of our current Bible, he would have preserved it, and I'm thinking that maybe it's just that we get the major good points through it's references in the Bible, but it probably is some good noncannical reading if you want to look into it. EDIT: spelling This post has been edited by Zabby: Mar 27 2009, 06:39 PM |
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Mar 27 2009, 06:21 PM
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Church Goer ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 71 Joined: 14-August 07 From: Louisiana Member No.: 13,006 Gender : Male |
It was rejected mostly because they are unable to confirm its real authorship and a few other things. I've read and gained much insight on things from the books of Enoch. I do not in anyway hold it to be cannon but it is interesting reading. Do not however hold it above the athority of the Cannon. I can't see it being harmful in anyway, unless someone would put it over the bible. Enoch was a great man of God, so much so that he was taken before his earthly death.
Just my opinion on the books. This post has been edited by Li'Santo: Mar 28 2009, 12:52 AM |
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Mar 27 2009, 07:52 PM
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![]() Rocking For God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 621 Joined: 28-December 08 From: United States Member No.: 22,329 Gender : Male |
I'll take it as a grain of salt. But if it is completley true, then it does answer a lot of quesitons.
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