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post Dec 21 2008, 04:52 AM
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post Dec 21 2008, 04:57 AM
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I think... that christian scream would suck... Screamo would not be considered "praise" or "worship" So i would say it woukld not really be considered of the lord. Sorry for the typos :/
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post Dec 21 2008, 05:57 AM
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But there's no reason for it to be considered not of the Lord.

A lot of things aren't mentioned in the bible, yet people try claiming they're wrong. Now doing that is what is wrong.
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post Dec 21 2008, 04:21 PM
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Screamo is "wrong" in that it's super loud, angry, and obnoxious.

Don't need scripture to back that up... my head throbbing after my brother forces me and my mom to listen to System of a Down's "BYOB" or their other crap in the car is proof enough tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2008, 04:50 PM
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Merged the "Christian Screamo" music in here.
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post Jan 19 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (slj825 @ Oct 28 2004, 12:54 AM) *
now i'm going to a church that has a ccm worship team, and is much bigger then our little church on a hill. i like it cause i feel like i can move, and praise however i want. it's just more relaxed. the one thing i would like is if they lowered the lights a little. it is sometimes distracting to see everyone arround you "dancin" and lifting their hands, but it's not enough to complain about.

i do have a hymnal from my old church, (i still go when i'm at home) and quite often i open it and worship from it if i feel i need, so all is fine with me. whatever makes my God smile!!!



The only way we know how to "make God smile" is by looking into his word to see what he expects from us. I'm sure you are all familiar with the story of Nadab and Abihu in the O.T.. The strange things is, they might have thought that they were "making God smile" by offering up strange fire as the priest should...But they were killed by a strange fire because God was not pleased with it (Read Leviticus 10). God's gives us commands and we need to seek what they are.

I do not believe that God is pleased with anything that we do. Where would the line be drawn? Some may say that dancing for the lord is what makes him happy... Wouldn't that create lust in anothers mind?

There are very few passages in the N.T. that speak about how we sould worship in services and those are found in Ephesians 5:19 and Colossians 3:16.

Tell where we see N.T. examples of Instruments in our worship?

I would defend the idea that it is in appropriate to use instruments in our worhisp to God...

Side note: Whose to say how we use them? and what is to be played? Truthfully, i think we're letting our Christians belief be molded by the world instead of molding the world by the teachings in scriptures.
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I like country christian music. Rascal Flatts is my favorite christian music artist.
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I don't like contemporary Christian music at all really.

I do like hymns though but I rarely listen to them outside of church (which I don't really attend at the moment).

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post Feb 26 2009, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (AquinasD @ Dec 21 2008, 01:25 AM) *
There is nothing inherently wrong with screamo, but it seems pointless to consider it specially "Christian," considering it unlikely you would actually be able to understand the lyrics. They could be screaming great poetry, but to be frank, I wouldn't read Edgar Allen Poe if it was in a language I couldn't understand.

I hate screamo music But I love black metal, doom metal and death metal, but just cause you don't hear the lyrcis does not mean it's demonic or wrong or not as spiritual as praise and worship music. I happen to be in a metal band and we are doing it for God I believe Worship music that is in our churches won't bring people to Jesus it's too boring.
QUOTE (proud_orthodox_guy @ Dec 21 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Screamo is "wrong" in that it's super loud, angry, and obnoxious.

Don't need scripture to back that up... my head throbbing after my brother forces me and my mom to listen to System of a Down's "BYOB" or their other crap in the car is proof enough tongue.gif

Anger can sometimes be a good thing, Instead of being all lame and happy dappy, it's called intercession, most intercessors need warrior music not lame fall alseep music.
Like I said I hate screamo, But If you consider screamo to be wrong than probably metal is wrong in your eyes too, which I totally disagree with.
Well of course you can't get scriptural back up there is none! God made all music, and any music can honor God, it's where your heart is. And When I worship along to black metal I can feel God just as much as "worship"
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Jars of Clay are by far my favourite Christian Band. I just find their music really excellent, diverse and most of all fresh.
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post Jul 23 2009, 12:21 AM
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I don't like Christian music. There was once a time when I tried.
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post Jul 24 2009, 07:01 PM
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I see nothing wrong with Contemporary. Some people didn't seem fit for Hymns and stuff. By far I don't think it matters. I think as long as the church is singing as a family..and is praising God while doing it..the music is fine.

That is just my opinion..but the Bible doesn't say that we must only worship in Hymns. Contemporary is also a great way of reaching out to teens. I know by experience that the hymns were nice but they didn't draw me into the worship service. The contemporary music does.

My favorite Christian bands are Casting Crowns and Hillsong United.
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it's about substance not style. it depends on the heart of the person. an 80 year old can't praise God through hard rock music or Toby Mac, but a teenager could. on the other hand a teenager doesn't relate to stuffy music like the 80 year old would like. it's the heart not the music.

me, i like stories so i love country music. i love Mark Schultz, amazing story teller. i like hymns done with electric guitar and bass. like jars of clay's ill fly away, jason lavdiks come thou fount. selah does hymns really well. i like some toby mac, third day, casting crowns.

it drives me crazy that people debate this subject so much. it doesn't matter to the faith. there are bigger things we need to worry about.

doesn't matter. the BIble doesn't tell us to sing hymns. it says to praise God. so what does it matter what kind of music it is as long as our heart is praising GOd.
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I beleive there should always be a place in our churches for hyms but they shouldn't rule out CCM either.
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QUOTE (audrey_ga_cowgirl @ Oct 27 2004, 09:35 AM) *
Indeed. 'Tis true and right. It is tradition, and I don't know of any verse in the Bible that says CCM in the church is wrong...



There isn't any verse in the bible that talks about worship service in church either.

What you have to be careful here, is making up rules that don't exist in the bible. There is no direction on how to properly have a worship service in church.

Worship is however, talked about in the bible in the context of giving him praise and thanksgiving. When you serve a king you worship them.

Music, politics that surround worship, and whether you sing hymns or modern day choruses don't mean a thing if your not worshiping God from the heart. It is all about him and not about anyone else. Change is good, bible talks about reaching from generation to generation, which means young to old and old to young. So in that context we ought to respect those who like hymns and those who like others. But bottom line, it really doesn't matter how you worship, just matters where it comes from. As worship leader and youth pastor that is something we strive for with our kids. In our main service we always play a Hymn mixed in with newer stuff. Even re do some old hymns in a new way.

Eddie Kirkland has great new blend of It is well with my soul.
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