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CTF Official Mormonism Debate Thread |
Nov 15 2009, 11:28 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
Someone can be a true Christian and believe in evolution just as a true Mormon can choose to believe in allegorical and metaphorical context of the BoM.
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Nov 16 2009, 12:10 AM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 7,941 Joined: 13-July 06 From: OC Member No.: 6,663 Gender : Male Name : Sky |
I, in all honesty do not believe you know enough about Mormonism to make any such statement. You're words alone show that you really truly haven't studied Mormonism.
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Nov 16 2009, 12:15 AM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
I have actually. And I've read most of the BoM.
Can a Christian believe In an allegorical garden of Eden? Why can't a Mormon believe the whole becoming a god thing is also allegorical? |
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Nov 16 2009, 10:15 AM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 7,941 Joined: 13-July 06 From: OC Member No.: 6,663 Gender : Male Name : Sky |
Have you actually STUDIED it though? I've been studying Mormonism (along with Christianity, Catholicism and Islam) for the past three and 1 half years and what you've said so far proves that it either went in and out or you really haven't done all the studying you're claiming to have. Look, I'm not here to debate semantics with you, I'm here to address a serious issue.
The reason Mormons (true Mormons) "can't" believe it's allegorical, is because of the way their entire religion is set up. Their entire goal, or one of the major goals is exaltation, ascending to the third heaven and becoming like God, who is all-knowing/powerful/worthy of praise/over/perfect. They want to be god of their own universe which is indeed a core building-block in Mormonism. It's not a conspiracy, it is what is taught and what has been taught. |
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Nov 16 2009, 02:25 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
I don't think you're using semantics in the correct context but I digress...
I realize what you are saying; many mormons are taught that, many aren't. Many don't necessarily think Jesus walked the new world. One's walk with God isn't hinged on these ideas. |
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Nov 17 2009, 03:12 PM
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![]() Proclaim the gospel, perfect the Saints, Redeem the dead ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: 10Ker Posts: 13,311 Joined: 14-October 04 From: Lock Haven, Pennsylvania Member No.: 448 Gender : Female Name : Marisa |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cBaPzaehNg
Watch this, then maybe most of you will have at least an inkling of what I belive, and the Scripture that supports it. |
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Nov 17 2009, 03:22 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
I spoke with an Lds the other day who said it's not necessary to believe literal interpretation to be Mormon. Sure in Utah they get a little out there, but not everywhere.
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Nov 17 2009, 03:28 PM
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![]() Proclaim the gospel, perfect the Saints, Redeem the dead ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: 10Ker Posts: 13,311 Joined: 14-October 04 From: Lock Haven, Pennsylvania Member No.: 448 Gender : Female Name : Marisa |
Ask that same LDS member if they hold a temple recommend. If they hold the priesthood(if male).
While our church is based in Utah, and is around the world. We use the same lesson manuals throughout the world church. I can go to any LDS chapel around the world and the manual is the same, and I will be within two or three lessons of where I would be at home. |
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Nov 18 2009, 03:43 PM
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Crazy Fingers ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Resident Posts: 1,696 Joined: 17-July 09 Member No.: 24,983 Gender : Male |
Not all lds churches are the same though. They practice what they want; jut bc a few Mormons believe in divine transcendentalism, but not all.
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