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CTF Official Swearing Debate, Curses. Foiled again! |
Jul 13 2009, 10:06 PM
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![]() Voice of the people. ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 24-August 07 From: Spencer, NY Member No.: 13,191 Gender : Male Name : Chad |
QUOTE Dur- Swearing is 100% against God's word. Second Commandment, anyone? Dur. go read the second commandment, dur. "Do not take God's name in vain". Not "Do not swear". God's name is TOTALLY, 100%, entirely, a completely different issue than swearing. Swearing is cuss words. God's name is not a cuss word, it's God's name. God's name is what is mentioned in the second commandment, NOT cussing. dur. |
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Jul 13 2009, 10:10 PM
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Sometimes I run out of adjectives. -shrugs-
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Jul 26 2009, 08:51 PM
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My personal beliefs on cussing are founded in Romans 14:13
"Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way." If cussing doesn't cause you to stumble in your walk with God, then that's your life and I'm okay with that. However, be careful who you expose to that language because it is a stumbling block for some. Particularly be careful around non-Christians because cussing Christians do not always make the best example to those around them. |
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Jul 27 2009, 11:31 AM
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"But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Mat. 5:34-37)
"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment." (Mat. 12:36) It is absolutely not okay for a Christian to swear! Its a SIN. Let me tell you this; yes it does not say, "Thou shall not curse" but if everything was written that way in the Bible it would be a LONG book. If you say cursing is a-okay then it is your word against God's, "In all things showing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine showing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity, Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you." (Titus 2:7-8) We are to be JUST LIKE JESUS and grow in holiness and righteousness if we are to, does that mean we are to cuss? NO! It's a stumbling block among many as well as yourself. Its words that are hurtful, demeaning, and well stupid if you are to be the Likeness of God then you know fully that cussing is wrong. Matthew 12:33-37 ESV / 2 helpful votes “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or make the tree bad and its fruit bad, for the tree is known by its fruit. You brood of vipers! How can you speak good, when you are evil? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. The good person out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” That's what JESUS says. |
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Jul 28 2009, 05:15 PM
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Catching On ![]() Group: Newcomer Posts: 24 Joined: 27-July 09 Member No.: 25,138 Gender : Female Name : Guinevere |
I curse all I want but I think that taking the Lord's name in vain isn't right. i agree. my grandma gets on my nerves because she says cursing is unnecessary but she says "oh lord" all the time. they are just words and pulling verses out of the Bible about 'unclean things coming out of your mouth' can't really relate. some of our 'swear' words didn't even exist. i mean the king james Bible uses the phrase 'p-ed-off' which is considered a crude word so ... the f word is different because it has a sexual use. and gd because it's taking the God's name in vain. I don't see any difference in saying 'oh, my God' and using gd, just that our culture has dubbed gd a strong cuss word. cussing to me is a little crude and redneck. but im a Christian writer and i'll probably use a few words occasionally in my stories to show someone's aditude or sencerity or passion for something. |
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Jul 28 2009, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE It is absolutely not okay for a Christian to swear! Its a SIN. Let me tell you this; yes it does not say, "Thou shall not curse" but if everything was written that way in the Bible it would be a LONG book. Its not a sin. But it is wrong. QUOTE "But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." (Mat. 5:34-37) Thats out of context. People used to and some still do say, 'I swear upon God that I wont do it.' That kind of swearing. QUOTE Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Swearing doesnt fit Phil 4:8. We shouldnt swear because it is not holy, it is not true, it is not honest, it is not just, it is not pure, it is not lovely etc. QUOTE I'm actually kind of surprised at the number of people who say it doesn't matter on here. I find that I feel guilty when I say them, yet sometimes I feel as if there's no way around it. *sigh* I dunno. I really try not to. A wise man falls down several times but tries again. keep it up. Its not an easy habbit to break, but it is a good habbit to get rid of. QUOTE To say nothing of how improper punctuation and awkward superlatives might make one appear. This was said a while ago, directed at me. Im going to reply to it now. First of all my grammar and expression isnt that bad. It is Australian, if you really dont like how I write by all means press alt+f4 my writing will dissapear. Anyways I meet most people in the real world, thus I dont write down what I am about to say, thus I am not juged on how I express myself in the written form. In conclusion, since I dont swear people can automatically pick that I have morals. I get asked a bit why dont I swear. well I dont swear because Im a Christian etc. |
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Jul 29 2009, 09:19 AM
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Catching On ![]() Group: Newcomer Posts: 11 Joined: 28-July 09 Member No.: 25,148 Gender : Male Name : Tim |
Swearing does fit phil 4:8-it says, pretty much, to think on holy things, if these are what you're thinking about, well, what's in your mind fills your heart, and what's in your heart comes out, be it through actions or words.
Ew2ng-Are you a christian, if so do you actually follow the Bible where it says to joyful about being a christian-don't keep it a secret-because if so, you're advertising to everyone you talk to that christians are Just Like everyone else.
Reason for edit: Merged posts - Bre
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Jul 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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Catching On ![]() Group: Newcomer Posts: 11 Joined: 28-July 09 Member No.: 25,148 Gender : Male Name : Tim |
This pretty well sums up what I think: http://www.gotquestions.org/cussing-swearing.html
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Jul 31 2009, 05:15 PM
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I think cursing is bad and unesscary as christians we should make an effort not to have a filthy mouth. What makes us different from every other non-christian if we curse and use the same laungauge that they use? I know Jesus didn't cuss so why should we?
Matthew 5:34-36 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. Best verse I could find on this subject |
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Jul 31 2009, 05:26 PM
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I think cursing is bad and unesscary as christians we should make an effort not to have a filthy mouth. What makes us different from every other non-christian if we curse and use the same laungauge that they use? I know Jesus didn't cuss so why should we? Matthew 5:34-36 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. Best verse I could find on this subject too bad you can't read as that verse was already refuted. |
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Jul 31 2009, 05:29 PM
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Oops sorry didn't know some already posted that one but what about this one?
Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers |
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Jul 31 2009, 05:32 PM
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Jul 31 2009, 05:41 PM
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Jul 31 2009, 07:25 PM
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Oops sorry didn't know some already posted that one but what about this one? Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers corrupt communication is relative to the culture you're around. what may be bad in one place would be fine somewhere else. |
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Aug 6 2009, 04:32 PM
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![]() Ο ανεμοστρό ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Gentryman Posts: 4,144 Joined: 26-April 08 From: USA Member No.: 17,308 Gender : Male Name : Shawn |
Can anyone prove to me that certain words in today's language which are considered "bad" shouldn't be used? I mean without just trying to support the "do not curse" argument whether through Bible verses or otherwise.
I'm suggesting that one's language could be foul without using what's considered a curse word, which could mean it's still "cursing" by the definition of the Bible or a higher power, but not what is typically considered "cursing" by that of today. Such a spin on things could also mean that to think of what's generally considered a "curse word" as taboo is a form of misdirected concern. This post has been edited by HlMelody: Aug 6 2009, 05:41 PM |
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