So we have Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA) at my school. And they meet every friday pretty nice group, but it pains me to see what they did. So one of my friends was banned and asked never to come back to FCA because he was openly Bi (not the same thing as gay yes but that was the reason). What does not make sense to me is the fact that non-Christians are allowed but someone that is gay or bi was banned from going back? I would like to know how you guys feel about this.

I personaly felt very upset when hearing they banned a Christian from a Christian club for what i see is no reason.

That is discrimination and I am sure that the person in question could sue and win. I am also sure it has very little to do with the actual orginization and much more to do with the biggots who lead the group.

I really don't think it was the best to do.I think being gay,bi,or les is wrong,but God still loves them,hates their sin.

That is so ridiculous. We have FCA at my school and meet every morning, and as far as I've seen, it's one of the most accepting groups of Christians I've ever been around. I'm sorry that this has happened to your FCA group, it's kind of a bad witness to not only your friend but the non-Christians that will hear about it.

This post has been edited by nicklepoo!: May 14 2009, 08:58 PM

Wow thats really bad, I hope that he says something about it because they should be accepting and more willing to be a witness than anything.

Don't worry about it too much. I'm sure most the kids in FCA aren't like that. In fact, I know they're not. It's really weird... I can't think of who would've told them to not come back. Honestly, I dislike FCA anyway.... It doesn't really help anything, and I feel really awkward with my Catholic habits and way of worshiping around there. It just does not work well for me. I'd go to Mass and Breakfast on Friday mornings if I wanted to commune with God, and anyone is invited to that if they want to go.

That is discrimination. If one professes to be Christian, how can they be banned from a group like that?

Though, I am not sure why non-Christians would be allowed in that group, as it is called "Fellowship of Christian Athletes". Oh well.

I personally think this is really, really disgusting. Personally, I see nothing wrong with being gay/bisexual and a chrisitian. Sure it may not be something that all the members of your FCA agree with - but does that mean they have to discriminate against him because of his sexuality??

As you clearly disagree with what happened (and rightly so) have you told themyou think it was wrong? As Christians we should be loving and accepting, and even if the member of your FCA do not believe in Homesexuality in Christianity, by judging him they commited a worse sin.

I hope their actions doesnt spread around your school and give Chrisitans a bad name. Thats exactly what happened at my school, and now the Christians have openly discriminated against those of a different sexuality many, many people searching for God - including my girlfriend - have been put of Christianity.

I will pray that you have the strength to tell the group what you think - if you havent already. I will also pray they learn to be more accepting of those who are different.

All my love
Kia xx

That is just wrong I say they need to look at the group and show love because if they do that then people will not want to be around them calling themselves "Christians" and yet doing this makes no sense.

Even though I don't agree with being gay/bi, that is still very crappy of your FCA leaders. FCA should welcome everyone just as Jesus did. However I wouldn't have a problem with a leader telling a gay/bi person not to freak anyone of the same sex out. I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm uncomfortable around them. It doesn't bother me when a female is looking at my body, even if I don't like her the same way. However catching a gay guy looking at me in that way...*shutters* I'm not being immature, it just freaks me out.

I completely disagree the FCA's action. That was wrong of them and pretty discriminatory.
And I quoted this post, because it also disturbed me. Just because someone is gay or bi doesn't mean they are checking out everyone of the same sex. It would be horrible for the leader to say that to them, unless the person is fowardly hitting on people (which should be treated the same whether it they are gay or straight). If someone is "freaked out" by a gay then they are homophobic and are letting it bother them for no reason whatsoever.

I never said that they are checking everyone out of the same sex. And I said in my post that if the gay/bi person is freaking someone out, then they should be dealt with. I even said that I disagreed with FCA's action. I guess I didn't clarify enough, but by reading my post one should understand what I meant. I have the same view as you on this FCA bit. And to add to this, I don't see how you are disturbed by my statement. It certainly wasn't a strong enough statement to make a person disturbed. I'm sorry that by catching some gay guy checking me out freaks me out a little. I'm certainly not the only guy who feels this way though. I once had this same conversation with some contemporaries of mine, and many of us felt this way. So I guess a lot of guys are homophobic

Well, I can see where the FCA group is coming from with banning a bisexual, considering it's against the Bible to participate in this sin. I'd personally feel very uncomfortable having him around, but that gives the group no reason to ban him. Christians should act lovingly to all people, gay or not. It's truly unfortunate this happened!

Yes a lot of guys are homophobic but just cause a lot are doesn't make it justifiable but there is nothing i can do to change your mind. Likewise i think it is unfair that these leaders think they know everything and inhibit people from comeing based on how God created them to love.

Wow. Reading all of your responses breaks my heart.

This post has been edited by static_sunshine: Jun 26 2009, 10:33 AM

How do these posts break your heart? Could you clarify please?

While we should still love people who struggle with or who are homosexual, all of FCAs athletes are supposed to be a representation of Christ to their schools. That being said, I know people in that organization who should be kicked out for immoral behavior such as drinking, premarital sex, etc. If it is against the beliefs of that organization (and I thought Christians in general as well, which is part of the reason I'm so upset) then to keep someone that is a representative of their values that isn't keeping the standards they hold would make no sense. It doesn't say that FCA spit on the kid and cussed him out. It said they didn't let him in the club. It's not discrimination. It's a club. You can join that or any club based on a shared set of values.

Also I thought that the Bible was decently clear on homosexuality.

Yeah, this ones a toughy for my moral compass.

If he would date a man, and accept that... yeah, maybe it's for the best. I don't know if I'd actually go through with it in a leadership position though.

But if he just thought that he was 'born that way' (Or some typical poppycock) but would abstain from homo- activities, I'd keep him there.

They should kick out all of the other sinners in that group (ie everyone).

Jesus hung around prostitutes for crying out loud.

Did He support what they were doing? No.

Did He preach to them anyways? Yes.

Wow. I am dissapointed in some of the responses too. So as long as you're gay but not "practicing" you should be allowed in? How about "practicing" heterosexuals?

This is nothing short of discrimination against a student, and it is illegal to not let a student join a school club.

No it's not. Especially when it's a faith based club. A club of any other religious order/belief would be allowed to refuse a member who does not adhere to the rules or practices of their faith. That's why it's a club. It's exclusive. They aren't being rude or discriminating against this student in anyway. In fact (to RDW444), they may love and share Jesus with this boy all the time. That doesn't mean that you should accept them into a club that is based on a faith that disagrees with his lifestyle. And yes, if any other member of that club has a lifestyle of sin, they should be kicked out. We all mess up, but to continuously live in sin isn't right. Those who are compulsive liars, memebers sleeping with members of the opposite sex outside of marriage, and participating in other habitual and unrepented of sins should also be disallowed.

That is discrimination against sexuality. I believe that Christians should have the right to choose their sexuality. I am a bisexual, it doesn't mean that I don't love God or Jesus as much as I would if I was straight. I can still Worship the same, no matter what sexuality.

Emma

I agree with you there realy is no difference from what i see.

Wait what, what other faith group can start a school organized club and have the right to refuse membership to students? School clubs are not excluse to start off with, espessially if they receive any form of school funding. Secondly if we refuse membership to anyone who lives in a constant state of sin how do you ever expect to get people to change? "We don't accept you becuase you havn't changed yet, but we won't let you in our club to help you change". How Christian.

People are free to associate with or not associate with anyone they want. But I recall at one time most FCAs were meeting on school property and not paying for the space. I'd have an issue with free public meeting space for organizations that discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, something many schools prohibit. And if this FCA chapter is like several I've seen, many members are "Fornicating Christian Athletes" and nobody kicks them out.

P.S. It seems awfully unchristian of them to exclude the "sinners". If Jesus could associate with tax collectors and prostitutes, seems like his example was lost on those people. They seem to have missed the whole Christian thing.