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Obama offers millions in Muslim technology fund
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post Oct 31 2009, 01:58 AM
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The White House Friday highlighted a new multi-million-dollar technology fund for Muslim nations, following a pledge made by President Barack Obama in his landmark speech to the Islamic world. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CN...;show_article=1
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post Oct 31 2009, 02:01 AM
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Thats great...but isnt America in a really tough time right now?
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post Oct 31 2009, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE (Solja247 @ Oct 31 2009, 06:01 PM) *
Thats great...but isnt America in a really tough time right now?


Yes but this will..... wait a minute.
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post Oct 31 2009, 11:59 AM
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Yes but this will..... wait a minute.


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Islam is most comfortable in the stone age.
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post Oct 31 2009, 12:02 PM
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Can someone please tell me why we persist in tossing money away even in the current state of our economy, this is ridiculous! Everyone pisses and moans about not having the money to do this or that and meanwhile we sending money to foreign countries for technology, cmon now, if you are going to donate money do it for things like medical care, not the umbrella of technology that can mean anythinfrom iphones to fax machines.

DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING!
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post Oct 31 2009, 12:30 PM
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Can someone please tell me why we persist in tossing money away even in the current state of our economy, this is ridiculous!


Because our president wants our economy to collapse. rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 31 2009, 02:25 PM
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The best way to combat terrorism is through education and jobs; this is a step in the right direction for the mid east. Knowlege and learning has the means to fight radical fundamentalism.

Sure I wish we had done this three years ago when our economy was better....
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post Oct 31 2009, 06:19 PM
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Feudal age...
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post Oct 31 2009, 06:36 PM
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Feudal age...


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post Oct 31 2009, 06:54 PM
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hmm.... so well it's obvious... the government is spending money like americans did during the past few years. I wonder when we'll begin jumping our debt between loners like people would do with several credit cards.
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post Oct 31 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (-L- @ Oct 31 2009, 05:02 PM) *
Can someone please tell me why we persist in tossing money away even in the current state of our economy, this is ridiculous!

Because they need it more than you?

Some of these nations have a bigger population than America, yet you're about 10-20 times richer than they are. Isn't something wrong there?

Just because you're America doesn't mean you deserve to live comfortably while almost half the world lives in poverty... glare.gif

At the moment, a lot of these Muslim countries are completely crippled from civil wars, corrupt leaders etc. and they don't have the means to sustain themselves. They're relying on extortionate foreign loans and big businesses that're paying them pittance for their produce, labour and resources.

If only they had the money to spend on education for their people, technology that potentially could lift them out of this pit they're in... But who do you think should give this money? Perhaps, maybe the most powerful nation on earth? sleep.gif

Btw, I'm not just ranting at you, L. I'm pretty much talking to everyone who's posted in this thread thus far... :/

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The best way to combat terrorism is through education and jobs; this is a step in the right direction for the mid east. Knowlege and learning has the means to fight radical fundamentalism.

Sure I wish we had done this three years ago when our economy was better....

Except you. You're too awsome.

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post Oct 31 2009, 10:16 PM
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Doesn't the president swear to take care of this country first? The country he is kinda ELECTED to lead? I really doubt he will make a second term. I am gone.
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (GodMadeLlamasXD @ Oct 31 2009, 06:45 PM) *
Because they need it more than you?

Because they failed.

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Some of these nations have a bigger population than America, yet you're about 10-20 times richer than they are. Isn't something wrong there?

Not at all, it's called Capitalism.

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Just because you're America doesn't mean you deserve to live comfortably while almost half the world lives in poverty... glare.gif


Just because I'm American, means my tax money should go to... America.
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At the moment, a lot of these Muslim countries are completely crippled from civil wars, corrupt leaders etc. and they don't have the means to sustain themselves. They're relying on extortionate foreign loans and big businesses that're paying them pittance for their produce, labour and resources.


Who's fault is this? American taxpayers?

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If only they had the money to spend on education for their people, technology that potentially could lift them out of this pit they're in... But who do you think should give this money? Perhaps, maybe the most powerful nation on earth? sleep.gif


I think they should take a step back, recognize their own complete failures, and then work to building something. The most powerful nation on Earth "earned it's money", why shouldn't they?
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (Deeper @ Oct 31 2009, 01:30 PM) *
Because our president wants our economy to collapse. rolleyes.gif

Thank you for revealing his ultimate goal. now go forth and spread the news to the masses!
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post Oct 31 2009, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE (Decoy @ Oct 31 2009, 11:23 PM) *
Just because I'm American, means my tax money should go to... America.



So true it hurts.
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post Nov 1 2009, 10:25 AM
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How sickeningly selfish.

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"Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"

The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
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Luke 10:30-37. Who are our neighbors?

However much you hate Islam, you should not hate those under its rule.

Decoy, you said "Because they failed."

I refuse to believe that you, a sensible young man, think that because these people were lied to and manipulated by their leaders that they all deserve to die.

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post Nov 1 2009, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (GodMadeLlamasXD @ Nov 1 2009, 10:25 AM) *
How sickeningly selfish.



Luke 10:30-37. Who are our neighbors?

However much you hate Islam, you should not hate those under its rule.

Decoy, you said "Because they failed."

I refuse to believe that you, a sensible young man, think that because these people were lied to and manipulated by their leaders that they all deserve to die.


Dude, how can he fix the worlds problems if he can't even fix America's?

Obama is supposed to take care of the ones he was given authority over before taking care of everyone else. Should a father of a house give to other families when his own is hurting?
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The United States does not have millions of dollars just lying around! It makes absolutely no sense to give out money like this when we're trillions in debt!!



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QUOTE (Jako @ Nov 1 2009, 06:08 PM) *
Dude, how can he fix the worlds problems if he can't even fix America's?

Obama is supposed to take care of the ones he was given authority over before taking care of everyone else. Should a father of a house give to other families when his own is hurting?

If you're still one of the most powerful countries in the world then do you really think that you have it worse than the countries that have nothing?

Furthermore, Obama's plan to fix your economy takes time to work (and it looks like it's starting to work) but it's ridiculous to say that you shouldn't give out any money until after your economies okay, isn't it? Hundreds of thousand would die in that time that could have been saved by that measly 150 million dollars! (America spends 518.3 billion on defence.)

These countries have no way of getting out of their situation, right? There is absolutely nothing they can do to fix themselves without their debts being paid and their country being fixed without millions/billions in foreign aid. This money that Obama's giving is just a start. They'll need much more.

Who do you think should give them this money? Who do you think needs the money more? Those who are starving to death or those who can't buy that new car they wanted?

QUOTE (Jebbrook. @ Nov 1 2009, 06:15 PM) *
The United States does not have millions of dollars just lying around! It makes absolutely no sense to give out money like this when we're trillions in debt!!

America is in debt because of greedy bankers, irrisponsible loan sharks and the general ignorance of the people falling into debt spirals. (Mostly)

Most (but not all) of these Muslim countries have been sucked dry by corrupt politicians and false religious leaders. The people haven't got good eduction and they're desperate for work so they will happily follow anyone who gives them even a little hope.

I'll say it again.

America has the means to get out of debt. Most of these impoverished Muslim countries do not have these means because nobody has been giving them nearly enough money. They've have to accept unfair loans and practically give away their produce, oil and labour.

It's so very, very unfair.

Oh, and Obama promiced to strengthen ties with the Muslim world. If he doesn't want to just talk the talk then he has to do something practical and actually help these people. I'm sure you'll agree that a politician doesn't look good if he goes back on his word...

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QUOTE (GodMadeLlamasXD @ Nov 1 2009, 04:57 PM) *
Who do you think should give them this money? Who do you think needs the money more? Those who are starving to death or those who can't buy that new car they wanted?



You tell me. Who does decide whats fair and unfair? Is it right to take away from your own to give to others without their permission? Are you blind to the starving families in this country?
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I just realized something. The chance of this money going to where it is suppose to is very unlikely. Not to long ago, I read an article of how we gave Pakistan 5 or 6 billion to counteract terrorists, and only 500 million of it made it to where it was suppose to go. This money that Obama is offerring them is going to dissolve because of bureaucracy. My hope is that if they get the money, none of it goes to any terrorist.
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post Nov 1 2009, 06:28 PM
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Pakistan also is semi allied with the taliban as proxy fighters. SaudiArabia has the most privately donated funds to terrorist organizations and other "factions". Both nations are our allies in the war on terror. By proxy, we are allied with some terrorists by lieu of "an enemy of my enemy is a friend". Every nation ha their own agenda.
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QUOTE (Jako @ Nov 1 2009, 10:41 PM) *
You tell me. Who does decide whats fair and unfair? Is it right to take away from your own to give to others without their permission? Are you blind to the starving families in this country?

Starving families?

You have welfare, government benefits, that kind of thing, right?

These people have nothing, no one looking out for them.

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QUOTE (Decoy @ Nov 1 2009, 03:23 AM) *
I think they should take a step back, recognize their own complete failures, and then work to building something. The most powerful nation on Earth "earned it's money", why shouldn't they?

That's fantasy, my friend...

In a lot of these countries, even the rich are fleeing to more wealthy states.

They haven't got education, they haven't got jobs and they can't do anything until they've paid off their debts!

But where do they get nearly all of their money from? Loans.

If you have concocted some miraculous way they can fix this mess without billions in foriegn aid then you may just become famous overnight, get some sort of nobel prize and save millions of lives.

There's your incentive, so please tell us all how you plan to do this...

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If all the rich people flee, and the poor gets poorer, pretty soon their states wouldn't function at all. And, strangely, they still exist.
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To those who are asking why he's doing this when the economy is in the potty:
Theoretically this could reduce debt; improving relations with Muslim nations may result in less of a terrorist threat, which in turn would result in less money being needed to fund the 'War on Terror' as it isn't called, which would reduce debt.

Maybe.
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