lol, giving them money for tech stuff will not reduce debt or terrorism, the relationship between giving them money and a decrease in terrorism is minuscule to none. building giant playgrounds for kids and telling them american gave it to them would have a greater effect on reducing terror imo.

The technology would go towards increasing effeciency and open new markets for new venues of employment. This is critical in fighting extreme fundamentalism which you find more in the more poverished and jobless locations all over the world, especially in the middle east.

To be honest they could give a Rat's butt about America for the most part.




We don't have the ability to be throwing this type of money around. Part of the reason we're in this sinkhole of an economic mess is because the US government can't freaking learn to cut their spending and stop putting money into half baked ideas.

On what side of America have you been living? Does Obama even have the right to give away our money? Is that fair? You tell me what is fair and unfair.

Have you ever seen the poor working class? The man that works and works, but still doesn't make enough to feed his family.

Shouldn't he be focusing more on America then the rest of the world?

Well we can pay for satellite laser guided robotic middle systems; I don't see the workin class poor man complaining about the billions spent on these/

Don't forget the war in Iraq; the money that's going towards this fund is something like half a day's worth of money spent on the occupation.

Yesh; the money is quite insignificant compared to what has been wasted on similiar ventures

Only this one doesn't involve explosions or bullets.

Heh middle systems typo

He does.


I agree. We in the west seriously have our priorities wrong when it comes to spending.

I asked you some other questions, why no answer?



Maybe because (hopefully) its for our protection.

This post has been edited by Jako: Nov 2 2009, 12:39 PM

I offer you all a new perspective.

Imagine sometime in the not-so-distant future when the Middle East runs out of oil entirely. The very lifeblood of most of their economies will be sucked completely dry, causing even more widespread poverty and facilitating an epidemic of Islamic extremism. The result will be a migration like none we've ever seen, to places in the world that are successful.

Where do you think they'll go?


I say give them all the technology we can while they're still kicking so they'll have something to stand on when this inevitable event takes place.

Yes, Obama has the right to make decisions about America because he, apparently, is the president of America.

What is fair and unfair?

It's relative from person to person, however God tells us to fight injustice, predjudice etc. whenever it arises. So here I am trying to change your view. L_L



I hadn't thought about that, but I think you're probably right they would migrate.

Maybe not to America, though... Countries like India and China would be to go-to places.

Besides, what's wrong with having more Muslims in your country?

Have you ever had your sleep disrupted because of prayers being blared from a nearby mosque's LOUDSPEAKER at 4 in the morning?

Case closed.

This post has been edited by Sinnerman: Nov 3 2009, 05:40 AM

No, not India and China... think of where they've been going.

What's wrong with more of them coming? Farewell English culture, hello Sharia state.

In the UK you can only play the call to prayer within the walls of the mosque. It's only allowed to be heard from the entrance, that's it.


Do you realise this is exactly the kind of thing that the BNP and other racist organisions are saying all the time?

Muslims who want to force Sharia law on anyone are seriously misinformed.

Though, people who think that the next logical step from 'country discouraging predjudice and racism' is 'country being forced into Sharia law' are perhaps even moreso.

"Maybe because (hopefully) its for our protection. "

yes and perhaps this offer could be even more of an asset in protecting us as a means to curb radical fundamental extremism bc people are educated and have good paying long lasting jobs that are more of an incentive to live for and not to blow onesself up for fifty bucks and possibly some virgins.

Aside from the whole racial supremacy and Holocaust denial, I'm going to tell you as a foreigner with a completely outside opinion, the BNP is completely on track when it comes to what's becoming of British culture. People don't want to agree with the BNP on this because they are under the impression that doing so would make them nazis. However, anyone who knows anything about the true nature of Islam also knows that Islam's goal is to essentially convert the world, and to be governed under Sharia Law. Islam isn't just a religion, it's also a political and judiciary system. Muslims who want to force Sharia Law on everyone are not misinformed, they are proper followers of Islam.

Britain's rabidly obsessive "discouraging prejudice and racism" policy has really gone too far. It's at a point where saying anything bad about Sharia Law is considered on par with racism, and that is a scary thing.

You think a few million bucks will change them? You give too much credit to human "goodness".

The Middle East holds a good portion of the world's easily accessible oil.

I'd be investing in them too.

Okay, so that's only in the UK and Singapore. And Australia and Canada, maybe. Just places where Muslims are the minority.

"You think a few million bucks will change them? You give too much credit to human "goodness"."

though I share some skepticism it is a step in the right direction; "them", as you put it, are people. And all have a right to opportunity to do good. This provision supports that.

You don't get to say who the proper Muslims are, mate. Muslims do.

The majority of Muslims aren't looking to take over the world or force their beliefs on anyone. Yes, they want the world to be Muslim, but we want the world to be Christian, don't we?


Wrong. This point of view is spread by fundis who are sore losers.

If a man says "I think Islam's got it all wrong. That's not the way to live life." then that's perfectly fine. That's his right, he has freedom of speech.

However if a man says "Islam is an evil religion and it's followers are wicked men who hate the west and are bent on total domination of the world" then that is racist, offensive, predjudiced, whatever you want to call it. Nobody has the right to be racist.

The laws in this country are making it a far better place. Nobody ever talks about how these laws are protecting churches from racist attacks and Christians from discrimination in the workplace, in education, in the media etc.

It's not just Islam that these laws affect. It's all those with a religion or a spirituality.

I really hope that other countries follow suit before these racial tensions get out of hand...

Well considering most Muslims don't even follow the Qur'an to its full extent, I would have to disagree. It's just like Christianity. Most people in Western society consider themselves Christian, but then if you were to ask them some questions you'd find that the vast majority do not live a Christian lifestyle, and even disagree with fundamental Christian principles explicitly laid out in the Bible. Muslims are exactly the same.


But you see, Christianity is not a political system. If the world was Christian, we still wouldn't set it up as a form of government.



Wait, what? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Somehow, through this new trend of political correctness, everyone has been completely overcome by this delusion that religion and race are the same thing, and insulting a religion is racist. It's wrong. Islam is not a race.

If someone thinks Islam is an evil religion, they are entitled to it. To outlaw people from voicing their opinions is fascism. That's the real irony of some of the people who are so angry about the BNP - they call the BNP fascist, and then they turn around and do everything in their power to silence their right to free speech.


Because they aren't.


Not really. Have you not noticed how anti-Christian society is becoming?

Dude, I know they are people. Please take your political correctness and take it elsewhere.

Like I said before, you overestimate human "goodness".


"And all have a right to opportunity to do good. This provision supports that."

So does that mean we look past our own? We have staring kids right here in America, would you have us look over them to give to other countries first?

It's an insignificant amount of our total budget. More money is wasted on utilizing preemptive fear with billion dollar weapon systems used relatively little or our protection. To invade, occupy and imperialise, yes, but little for our protection.

The wars in Afghanistan and iraq are terrible wastes of money.