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Sovereign Election, Calvinism and Arminiasm and other things. |
 Apr 8 2009, 02:51 PM
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 Soli Deo Gloria  Group: Retired Staff Posts: 13,220 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Missouri Member No.: 1,242 Gender : Male Name : Ἰακὼβ  |
So I was just wondering what all of you thought in regards to this
For TULIP see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TULIP#Five_points_of_Calvinism For Arminiasm see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminianism If you want to debate make a thread about this. I just want to see how well theologically funded our youth are here. For the record. 1. God chooses 2. 4.5 Calvinist 3. God saved me 100% 4. All but I chose 4.5 Calvinism 5. Calvin, because beyond this, he was a great and brilliant man. |
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Apr 9 2009, 11:50 PM
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Soli Deo Gloria Group: Retired Staff Posts: 13,220 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Missouri Member No.: 1,242 Gender : Male Name : Ἰακὼβ |
Seriously, anything?
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Apr 10 2009, 12:39 AM
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 Anchora Imparo  Group: Resident Posts: 788 Joined: 4-September 08 Member No.: 20,047 Gender : Not Telling |
1. Yes.
2. I put 5 point Calvinist... 3. God saves us 100%. 4. I put all of them... except for Limited-Unlimited Atonement... still somewhat fuzzy on that. 5. Charles Spurgeon... but John Calvin and Jonathan Edwards are really good too!!! good post, by the way! 
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Apr 10 2009, 12:48 PM
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 Live Ready to be Forgotten Group: Gentryman Posts: 8,412 Joined: 17-May 08 Member No.: 18,075 Gender : Male Name : Bryce |
I'm a Molinist.
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Apr 10 2009, 03:35 PM
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If I perish, I perish Group: Gentryman Posts: 3,411 Joined: 1-March 07 Member No.: 10,490 Gender : Not Telling |
QUOTE (Lydia @ Apr 10 2009, 01:39 AM)  1. Yes. 2. I put 5 point Calvinist... 3. God saves us 100%. 4. I put all of them... except for Limited-Unlimited Atonement... still somewhat fuzzy on that. 5. Charles Spurgeon... but John Calvin and Jonathan Edwards are really good too!!! good post, by the way! My answers are the same as hers, 'cept I'm for Limited-Unlimited Atonement, which would mean I agree with 4.5 Calvinism. <3 Driscoll This post has been edited by Unconscious: Apr 11 2009, 07:27 PM |
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Apr 11 2009, 02:23 PM
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 To Jesus Through Mary! Group: Gentryman Posts: 3,168 Joined: 31-July 08 From: In a Cedar Tree in Lebanon Member No.: 19,506 Gender : Female |
1. No. I believe He knows who will respond to His message, but He does not interfere in the affairs of human free will.
2. None. 3. See #1. God knows, and allows us to choose Him. 4. None 5. None |
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Apr 11 2009, 07:33 PM
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 Jesus Freak Group: Resident Posts: 292 Joined: 4-November 08 Member No.: 21,478 Gender : Female |
QUOTE (Selah @ Apr 11 2009, 01:23 PM) 1. No. I believe He knows who will respond to His message, but He does not interfere in the affairs of human free will. 2. None. 3. See #1. God knows, and allows us to choose Him. 4. None 5. None Ditto |
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Apr 12 2009, 01:14 AM
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 [1 Corinthians 7:34]  Group: Limited Administrator Posts: 11,585 Joined: 3-August 08 From: Sleepless in Seattle Member No.: 19,560 Gender : Female Name : Bre[anna] |
1. No
2. 8 point Arminiast 3. God knows our decision and lets us come to Him. 4. Total depravity 5. Jacob Arminian |
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Apr 12 2009, 07:52 PM
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 Bible Thumper Group: Resident Posts: 133 Joined: 28-December 08 From: Your nightmares Member No.: 22,341 Gender : Male Name : Anthony |
1. No
2. huh? None I guess 3. You're raised that way. So I guess you choose it yourself. 4. none 5. none This post has been edited by The Ocean: Apr 12 2009, 07:53 PM |
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Apr 12 2009, 08:27 PM
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Soli Deo Gloria Group: Retired Staff Posts: 13,220 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Missouri Member No.: 1,242 Gender : Male Name : Ἰακὼβ |
http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/religi.../predestination
Very good sermon regarding the topic. <3 Mark Driscol |
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May 16 2009, 03:05 PM
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Church Goer Group: Resident Posts: 93 Joined: 31-October 07 From: Cumbria, England Member No.: 14,240 Gender : Male |
God calls us, (ie causes us to know of our choice to continue to live in rebellion against Him or repent and receive mercy) then we have the choice to obey his calling or refuse to obey him. (Jonah, called to be a prophet, ran away from doing Gods will but in His mercy God brought him to repentance and used him as He wanted to.)
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May 18 2009, 06:07 PM
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 Jesus Freak Group: Resident Posts: 253 Joined: 8-May 08 From: This Earth is not my home. Member No.: 17,520 Gender : Female |
QUOTE (Selah @ Apr 11 2009, 02:23 PM) 1. No. I believe He knows who will respond to His message, but He does not interfere in the affairs of human free will. 2. None. 3. See #1. God knows, and allows us to choose Him. 4. None 5. None Ditto again. |
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May 18 2009, 06:19 PM
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 Tarrochi Extraordinare Group: Resident Posts: 649 Joined: 30-November 08 From: Upstate NY Member No.: 21,895 Gender : Female |
1. We choose whether or not we're Christian.
2. I am, for most intents and purposes, a universalist. God's love for us is more intense than any of us can comprehend and most likely doesn't condem a large amount of souls to hell. If one is in hell I believe it is because they have an overwhelmingly evil soul and would (dare I say) unhappy in heaven. 3. I think how one becomes a Christian is an individual thing and I'm not going to make a broad statement regarding it. 4. None 5. None |
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May 19 2009, 01:11 PM
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 Universal Liaison Group: Resident Posts: 1,039 Joined: 8-November 07 From: Texas Member No.: 14,366 Gender : Female Name : Amanda |
1. I said I was unsure, mostly because I believe it involves not just one side, but both. It's like what I've dubbed the "philosophy of friendship". When you meet someone new and become their friend, it's not because you chose them or because they chose you... you chose each other. It's a simultaneous mutual act.
2. I'm a universalist. 3. I said God knows our decision and lets us come to him because I am currently being influenced by this "Molinism" that Bryce proposes. I think God already knows what we're going to choose, and has in fact actualized the world in a manner that we would choose it of our own free will. So now all that's really left is to sit back and watch the movie. 4. I believe in Unconditional Election and Irresistable Grace but probably in a very different way than Calvinists mean it. I don't believe we are saved by our works. There is absolutely nothing we can do that would make us "special enough" to get into heaven. It is only by God's infinite (and irresistable) grace. His grace is irresistable in that it is so pure that there are none who desire to resist it. 5. I'm not a fan of the first 3 and I have no idea who the last 2 are. |
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