I'm sorry I just had to post this in the men's forum as well as the news forum. I want your guys opinions.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21311214/detail.html

Do you think he overreacted? What would you have done if you had been in the stepfather's shoes? Possibly the same thing?

This post has been edited by HiphopTom: Oct 16 2009, 03:02 PM

Nothing, since in England we have realised most people can make such a decision by 16. Personally I think that age is still to high for many young people now (Being 17 I know I was 'ready' long before the age of consent even if I never acted on it.)


The age of consent should not be a black and white issue...

I don't know how to feel about this. I suppose I might want to react similarly, but I dunno. There's a lot wrong with the situation IMO.

Wowwwwwwww

Be a dumb kid? Expect consequences.

I think I'd be more disappointed and upset with my child, than the other party.

Mike I agree it was dumb. Still..I can't help but feel that's a bit excessive. Not saying I wouldn't want to do it too because I definitely think I would.

If anything, shoot to kill and take care of the body.

i would want to but, heck no. I wouldn't kill someone for that. I'd scare the crap out of them though at least.

Your future daughter is safe.

Of course it was excessive. Can't say I blame the guy, though.

This post has been edited by Captain Jack Sparrow: Oct 16 2009, 03:44 PM

I don't know. It seems sexist to me. Like the girl somehow needs protection from her boyfriend. Which she doesn't. Women are not objects that can be used by whatever man gets a hold of them. They make their own choices. And she made the choice to have sex with her boyfriend. And he gets shot over it.

5 shots and he couldnt kill him? fail

I would destroy that 18 year old boy.

Very many of the posts here have really enforced my sense that we're still living in a pre-feminist society in which the daughter is the property on the father (and then the husband). The father needs to find the right husband for her and the husband wants to protect his name, so obviously when the woman shows any sense of sexual liberation, the act is most insulting to her father. What absolute nonesense! The woman belongs to no one but herself and she should assert herself sexually without any fear of retaliation!

Josh

I'm half-amazed you weren't advocating the father join in.

That was exactly the kind of sentiment I was trying to express. And we do live in a pre-feminist society. This stepfather proves it.

I hope I read that wrong.

Because if not you are basically saying the decision IS up to the father and then husband and not the girl.


Free will people, she was old enough to decide for herself.

Crazy.

If I was in the father's shoes, I'd most likely pull the guy off my daughter and drag him outside with my bear hands. And then slap him around a bit, apologize, and go to sleep hoping things smooth out in the morning.

It was a case of angry father, except he didn't hold back what most would do. All that rage, with the right kind of person, I'd expect something like this to happen.
He walked in on them.
It wasn't right, but the kids were wrong too.

You totally read me wrong.

Of course you are, because everything I say is instantly "immoral", right? Though, to keep things mildly scholarly, even Levi-Strauss (whom one cannot not quote with respects to cultural/anthropological studies) stated that "incest" acted as a cultural conventional prohibition rather than a natural one. Though, of course, you don't care about anything that any contemporary Continental philosopher has said in the last 50 years. You're too busy trying to imperialize your views onto other people.

Josh

Nice one, Bryce

I definitely understand why the stepfather did what he did, however, there are better ways of protecting your daughter without getting put in jail. Even though she's legally old enough to make that decision, I assume the stepfather owns the house. Since he owns the house he has a right to dictate the rules.

I love reading the guy's statements. He's basically claiming he feared for his life when he walked in on some intruder in his house having sex with his daughter. If you listen to the tapes he sounds upset. It's actually possible he could be genuinely remorseful and that it wasn't just some retaliation. That being said, it's also possible he shot him with the hopeso f getting away with it.

Kinda makes me wonder about the relationship he has with his daughter. Yes, JP, I believe that men have a responsibility to protect the women around them, but it does require some sort of balance regarding the woman's wishes. It isn't that a man "owns" her. It's that he's responsible for her safety and wellbeing. Yes, it's a bit of a double standard when it comes to your daughter having sex vs your son, but it's not about control. It's about respect.

No, you just seem to have a lot to say about how much you love for people to have sex with each other.



Or maybe I'm just too busy trying to form a rational worldview that doesn't pretend its something other than it is? I'm not the one imperializing my beliefs and pretending I'm not.

She's 16. She's a mere child. She was acting sinfully.

He's 18. He should have known better. He was acting sinfully. He got shot in the leg four times. Maybe he'll think twice next time.

Ridiculous.

They were both sinning, and they both were punished for that sin. That stepfather may have over-reacted. But how would the Heavenly Father do if he walked into that? WORSE