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Stepfather shoots daughter's boyfriend
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post Oct 24 2009, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE (Secundus @ Oct 23 2009, 11:53 AM) *
What do you mean both suggestions? I only made one suggestion. And there's nothing "impractical" about it. It's entirely possible to remain chaste your entire life.


Again, forgive me for my failed attempts at communicating with you. I didn't get much sleep last night, so I wasn't very effective in conversation earlier. It actually seemed to me like you were saying that all humankind should be abstinent... ._. So I facepalmed, nearly dropped out of my chair, and screamed "DOESN'T HE KNOW THAT MEANS WE'LL BE EXTINCT!" >_> I see now that's not what you were saying though. My apologies again, I feel foolish. I didn't notice your edit earlier either, so I will comment now:

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EDIT: Oh wait. You mean a married couple won't catch anything off each other as long as they were both abstinent before the marriage?

Sorry, but no.

See, the unfortunate thing about many of these diseases is that a lot of people are infected with them without knowing about it. They carry the illness, but they don't exhibit any symptoms. Venereal diseases are not only spread via sexual contact, you see; they can also be transmitted congenitally, or by blood transfusion, for example.

So, your wife is carrying gonorrhea. Women infected with gonorrhea often show no symptoms at all, so she doesn't know you have it. You marry your wife and spend your first night in bed together. Congratulations, you now have gonorrhea. Doesn't matter how abstinent you were beforehand, because bacteria don't really care about how long you managed to stay a virgin.


True. But I'm sure we can both agree that abstinence until marriage would be much safer than having sexual contact with multiple partners. That's all I'm saying.

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post Oct 24 2009, 07:22 AM
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QUOTE (Rayn @ Oct 24 2009, 02:10 AM) *
Again, forgive me for my failed attempts at communicating with you. I didn't get much sleep last night, so I wasn't very effective in conversation earlier. It actually seemed to me like you were saying that all humankind should be abstinent... ._. So I facepalmed, nearly dropped out of my chair, and screamed "DOESN'T HE KNOW THAT MEANS WE'LL BE EXTINCT!" >_>


Actually, you pretty much got it. The world would be a lot safer if people just didn't have sex. It also wouldn't have to mean extinction. In the past it would have, but thanks to modern science, two people can now have a baby together without so much as laying a finger on one another.

Besides, what's wrong with extinction? I don't know about you, but I don't really think the continued existence of mankind will matter much to me when I'm dead.
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post Oct 25 2009, 10:58 PM
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The replies in this thread are amazingly sociopathic. It's completely obvious that the father did not 'fear for his life' and simply used that as an excuse to justify his behavior. The fact that most of you tacitly APPROVE of attempted murder in the case of consensual and legal sex is cringe-inducing.
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post Oct 28 2009, 09:53 PM
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justified 110% absoltley. i would have probably only put 2 shots down but still this guy was 110 percent justified in my mind.
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post Oct 29 2009, 12:41 PM
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I can really, really only hope that people as irrational as you never come into contact with a firearm.
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post Oct 30 2009, 05:05 AM
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I'm going to start shooting everyone who lies to me for any reason and see how long it takes for the people who advocated this man's actions to call me a terrible person when I'm arrested and the news report comes out.

Hooray for double standards!
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post Oct 31 2009, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (Secundus @ Oct 30 2009, 05:05 AM) *
I'm going to start shooting everyone who lies to me for any reason and see how long it takes for the people who advocated this man's actions to call me a terrible person when I'm arrested and the news report comes out.

Hooray for double standards!

????? this is ridiculous why would one shoot another for lying? Lying and protecting your daughter is completely different. Clearly this guy was most likely playing his smooth moves and getting lucky. What a low life. He wasn't so lucky this time.
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:01 AM
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apparently consensual sex means you get shot on ctf
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (TeenLeaderTom @ Oct 31 2009, 12:01 AM) *
????? this is ridiculous why would one shoot another for lying? Lying and protecting your daughter is completely different.


"Protecting" her from what? Consensual sex?

OK then, let me switch it up a bit. I'm going to shoot everyone who lies to anyone I know. That way I'm protecting the people I know from lies! Totally justified!

QUOTE (TeenLeaderTom @ Oct 31 2009, 12:01 AM) *
Clearly this guy was most likely playing his smooth moves and getting lucky. What a low life. He wasn't so lucky this time.


Oh, right. I suppose you would know, given that you were there and witnessed what transpired and everything leading up to it? Don't make me laugh.
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post Oct 31 2009, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (TeenLeaderTom @ Oct 31 2009, 12:01 AM) *
????? this is ridiculous why would one shoot another for lying? Lying and protecting your daughter is completely different. Clearly this guy was most likely playing his smooth moves and getting lucky. What a low life. He wasn't so lucky this time.


Yes, protecting your daughter from having sex by SHOOTING the guy is totally the way to go!! rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 31 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE (AquinasD @ Oct 16 2009, 10:22 PM) *
I'm half-amazed you weren't advocating the father join in.


I'm half-amazed that I wasn't the only person to have that thought cross my mind.

In regards to the OP.... I'd have shot the guy without question. If someone's in my house and I don't know about it, there are likely to be issues, like... "hey..... if you haven't checked already, there's a floorsafe beneath my bed," kind of an awkward situation, but possibly explanable. If someone's in my house having sex with my daughter, I'd probly figure she's being raped. If someone comes to my door and asks to have sex with my daughter, I'd permanently fix their face and leave it at that. =D

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post Oct 31 2009, 11:39 PM
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My goodness.


Occasionally I enjoy coming back to CTF and reading some of the topics. I generally steer clear of posting and shake my head as I watch the same debates I went through 3 years ago happen over, and over, and over again on this forum. Sometimes I am really tempted to post in order to right a wrong, but I come back to my senses and remember that nothing is ever solved on the internet.

For some reason this thread angered me so much (something I must repent of) I've decided to post a response.

How dare you call yourself a Christian then advocate shooting an 18 year old boy? How dare you disgrace the Lord we are supposed to represent with such psychopathic conversation and statements.

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I would destroy that 18 year old boy.

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He's 18. He should have known better. He was acting sinfully. He got shot in the leg four times. Maybe he'll think twice next time.

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well....I think the father was perfectly right for it. i guess perhaps he could have just beat up the kid


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Shame on all of you, and anyone else who shares the same sentiment. Your brash declarations are not ones that come from the Christian God of Mercy and forgiveness. The same Lord that demands we forgive one another lest our own sins go unforgiven, the One who calls us to turn the other cheek when hit, to lay silent when persecuted.

This man needs Jesus in his life and healing for his anger problems. The young lady needs God to help her resist her lustful desires. The young man needs God to heal his body and to give him strength to resist temptation. All three need forgiveness, and what is the most upsetting is this:

All of you condemn the young man in light of your own salvation where you have been forgiven of so much more than having sex. You've been forgiven of cosmic treason against your creator. How dare you sit at the judgment seat and dole out punishment for sin. You are unfit to judge, and you do not judge righteously, for even in your ignorance of justice you fail to understand the woman played as much and maybe even more in this situation.

The next time pride swells with-in you so much as to condemn someone who God has called us to show nothing more than love towards, remember your own salvation and fear and tremble at God's words.

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Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.


What in your words was holy, compassionate, kind, humble, meek, or patient? Nothing, it was spiteful, vengeful, and filled with hubris. Quick to anger, and slow to love.

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post Nov 3 2009, 10:39 AM
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the guy took FOUR .45 bullets to the chest and SURVIVED, that dudes my hero
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post Nov 3 2009, 02:24 PM
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Leg and lower back. Not the chest.
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post Nov 3 2009, 02:29 PM
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If I ever have a daughter and I see a boy doing anything that in my house, God help him cause he's going need it.

I'm going to be the Dad who's going to be cleaning the guns when the kid comes to pick her up for a date and such.


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