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Are You Vaccinated?
Are You Vaccinated?
Are you vaccinated?
Yes [ 31 ] ** [75.61%]
No [ 10 ] ** [24.39%]
Do you have all the recommended vaccines?
Yes, all [ 25 ] ** [60.98%]
No, none [ 7 ] ** [17.07%]
I was selectively vaccinated [ 9 ] ** [21.95%]
Will you get vaccines in the future?
Yes, anything the CDC recommends [ 8 ] ** [19.51%]
No [ 8 ] ** [19.51%]
Only vaccines I feel are very safe and neccessary [ 20 ] ** [48.78%]
I'm not sure [ 5 ] ** [12.20%]
Will you vaccinate your future children?
Yes, everything the CDC reccommends [ 22 ] ** [53.66%]
No, I will not be vaccinating [ 7 ] ** [17.07%]
I will do a delayed/alternative vaccine schedule [ 5 ] ** [12.20%]
I'm not sure [ 7 ] ** [17.07%]
Do you agree with using aborted fetal tissue to make vaccines(MMR)?
Yes [ 10 ] ** [24.39%]
No [ 19 ] ** [46.34%]
Other [ 12 ] ** [29.27%]
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post Oct 28 2009, 10:25 AM
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Are you vaccinated?
The latest one I got is the tetanus-diphtheria vaccine,I think.I had to get it because I got scratched and it's kind of handy on a farm.

Do you have all the recommended vaccines?
No.

Will you get vaccines in the future?
Idk,it kind of depends.

Will you vaccinate your future children?
No sure,I'm not crazy about vaccinations.My friend was vaccinated and she's fine.

Do you agree with using aborted fetal tissue to make vaccines(MMR)?
No.

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Actually, allergies are said to be caused by vaccines. Allergies are your immune system in over drive basically. From very early in life, babies are shot up with many vaccines (30 by the time they are 2?). Such vaccines, besides the toxins in them, train the body to be always attacking something. When the vaccines stop, the immune system doesn't know how to stop - hence: allergies
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QUOTE (tessa_s212 @ Oct 28 2009, 10:25 AM) *
Actually, allergies are said to be caused by vaccines. Allergies are your immune system in over drive basically. From very early in life, babies are shot up with many vaccines (30 by the time they are 2?). Such vaccines, besides the toxins in them, train the body to be always attacking something. When the vaccines stop, the immune system doesn't know how to stop - hence: allergies


Very true. The growing trend of allergies could also be attributed to vaccines.

"By preventing childhood infections, vaccines also prevent the development of a strong T helper (TH) 1 response. This arrested development would then perpetuate the bias toward a TH2 response that characterizes the immune system at birth; that, in turn, is thought to increase the likelihood of allergic disease.

This proposition stems from the “hygiene hypothesis,” which suggests that living in a highly sterile, infection-free environment keeps children from developing the TH1 response necessary to fend off allergic disease. Some epidemiologic studies support the hygiene hypothesis, showing greater rates of allergy in highly sanitized Western nations (where vaccination is prevalent) than in less developed countries with low vaccination rates and a relatively high risk of infection.

Other investigators argue that vaccination facilitates autoimmune disease via “molecular mimicry”—the presence of proteins on the surface of a wild-type or vaccine pathogen that are similar to those on the surface of human cells. This similarity may trigger an autoimmune response if the body mistakes its own cells for the pathogen."


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CAN VACCINES CAUSE FOOD ALLERGIES?

JAMA 2001 Apr 4;285(13):1746-8 Detection of peanut allergens in breast milk of lactating women states, “Most individuals who react to peanuts do so on their first known exposure”……………..and concluded “Peanut protein is secreted into breast milk of lactating women following maternal dietary ingestion. Exposure to peanut protein during breastfeeding is a route of occult exposure that may result in sensitization of at-risk infants.” PMID 11277829

Women have been ingesting peanut protein while breastfeeding for decades. What has changed in the last 15 years to cause infants to develop life-threatening allergies to this legume? One change has been the vaccination schedule.

The Int Arch Allergy Immunol 1999 Jul; 119(3):205-11 Pertussis adjuvant prolongs intestinal hypersensitivity concludes: Our findings indicate nanogram quantities of PT (pertussis toxin), when administered with a food protein, result in long-term sensitization to the antigen, and altered intestinal neuroimmune function. These data suggest that exposure to bacterial pathogens may prolong the normally transient immune responsiveness to inert food antigens. PMID 10436392

Does this study explain why babies and toddlers react on their first exposure to the peanuts or other antigens? The babies may have been sensitized by the vaccines to the proteins through breast milk or formula ingested at the time of vaccination. This would also explain why children are anaphylactic to a variety of proteins, such as different tree nuts, peanuts, egg, legumes, milk, seeds, etc., depending on what proteins the mother ate at the time of vaccination.

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ARE MULTIPLE VACCINES CAUSING OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS TO FAIL?

Immunology Today, March 1998, Volume 19, p. 113-116 states, “Modern vaccinations, fear of germs and obsession with hygiene are depriving the immune system of information input upon which it is dependent. This fails to maintain the correct cytokine balance and fine-tune T-cell regulation, and may lead to increased incidences of allergies and autoimmune diseases.” PMID 9540269

From the journal Allergy 1999, 54, 398-399, Multiple Vaccination effects on atopy, “An increase in the incidence of childhood atopic diseases may be expected as a result of concurrent vaccination strategies that induce a Th2-biased immune response. What should be discussed is whether the prize of a reduction of common infectious diseases through a policy of mass vaccination from birth is worth the price of a higher prevalence of atopy.” PMID 10371102

Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics, Feb. 2000; 23(2):81-90, Effects of diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis or tetanus vaccination on allergies and allergy-related respiratory symptoms among children and adolescents in the United States, “The odds of having a history of asthma was twice as great among vaccinated subjects than among unvaccinated subjects. The odds of having any allergy-related respiratory symptom in the past 12 months was 63% greater among vaccinated subjects than unvaccinated subjects.” PMID 10714532

Epidemiology 1997 Nov;8(6):678-80 Is infant immunization a risk factor for childhood asthma or allergy? This study followed 1,265 children born in 1977. The 23 children who received no DPT and polio immunizations had no recorded asthma episodes or consultations for asthma or other allergic illness before age 10 years; in the immunized children, 23.1% had asthma episodes, 22.5% asthma consultations, and 30% consultations for other allergic illness. Similar differences were observed at ages 5 and 16 years. PMID 9345669
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Actually, allergies are said to be caused by vaccines.


While I picked a bad example the fact still stands, no scientist has yet to actually prove that correlation equals causation in the case of autism.
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I think SNL put it best.

The growing trend of not getting vaccinated has lead to a whole new trend. Dieing of Polio.
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QUOTE (seaisabella @ Oct 28 2009, 04:02 PM) *
While I picked a bad example the fact still stands, no scientist has yet to actually prove that correlation equals causation in the case of autism.


Here: http://www.naturalnews.com/026953_thimeros...sm_mercury.html

"In the study, it was found that the amounts of Thimerosal found in inoculations commonly given to infants in the 1990s and still in use today (though more limited) induced levels of cellular toxicity. This cellular damage was consistent with that found in studies of patients diagnosed with ASD."

This just validates the thimerasol and autism link (aka mitochindrial disorder)
The government has also admitted to this link, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/...ci_b_88323.html

"The doctors conceded that the child was healthy and developing normally until her 18-month well-baby visit, when she received vaccinations against nine different diseases all at once (two contained thimerosal).

Days later, the girl began spiraling downward into a cascade of illnesses and setbacks that, within months, presented as symptoms of autism, including: No response to verbal direction; loss of language skills; no eye contact; loss of "relatedness;" insomnia; incessant screaming; arching; and "watching the florescent lights repeatedly during examination."

Seven months after vaccination, the patient was diagnosed by Dr. Andrew Zimmerman, a leading neurologist at the Kennedy Krieger Children's Hospital Neurology Clinic, with "regressive encephalopathy (brain disease) with features consistent with autistic spectrum disorder, following normal development." The girl also met the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) official criteria for autism.

In its written concession, the government said the child had a pre-existing mitochondrial disorder that was "aggravated" by her shots, and which ultimately resulted in an ASD diagnosis."
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In its written concession, the government said the child had a pre-existing mitochondrial disorder that was "aggravated" by her shots, and which ultimately resulted in an ASD diagnosis."


The government =/= a scientific body. Could you provide a source which shows the scientists and medical researchers who did the studies on this one infant?
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Are you vaccinated? - Yes, I've had vaccines before.
Do you have all the recommended vaccines? - I'm not sure, I might have missed a couple. Oh, what a shame. rolleyes.gif
Will you get vaccines in the future? - No, not of my own accord, at least. Not at all.
Will you vaccinate your future children? - No way. All of my babes will be vax-free! smile.gif
Do you agree with using aborted fetal tissue to make vaccines(MMR)? - Most definitely not. If I did, that would require me to support abortion, which I do not.
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Only one's I've had were ones I needed like back in middle or whenever that they make you take to go to school.
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vaccines like tetanus, you would be stupid not to get it. 'But it has mercury in it' Fine then be an idiot and die or screw your life up because you didnt want to get mercury poisoning
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QUOTE (F.R.O.G. @ Oct 27 2009, 04:30 PM) *
Are you vaccinated?
Yes.

Do you have all the recommended vaccines?
Yes, though I am sure I probably should get a tetanus sometime...but I am not worried.

Will you get vaccines in the future?
It depends, I have never received a flu shot.

Will you vaccinate your future children?
Yes and I have. Bot of my sons have had all of the shots required and this next one will as well. There have been no issues with them getting their vaccinations other than a fever for a day or two after receiving their shots.

Do you agree with using aborted fetal tissue to make vaccines(MMR)
Hmmm, I didn't know this was an option. I do not agree with this. Since I did not know it was an issue, could you provide a source saying that they use aborted fetal tissue in the MMR shot?


The wikipedia article on the MMR vaccine has that information, as well as this link debating the morality of such.

As for me:

Are you vaccinated?

Yes.

Do you have all the recommended vaccines?

Yes, except for Typhus, since the physician thought it made me sick.

Will you get vaccines in the future?

Since I work in healthcare, then probably yes.

Will you vaccinate your future children?

Yes.

Do you agree with using aborted fetal tissue to make vaccines(MMR)?

No, I don't agree with the abortion, or the current/future use of such tissue. However, both cell lines used in MMR vaccines were started 40 and 50 years ago. It is regrettable and evil that the babies were aborted then, but until scientists switch to another method of making the Rubella part of the MMR vaccine, we don't have much of a choice, as far as I know.
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QUOTE (Max Power @ Oct 29 2009, 02:44 AM) *
I think SNL put it best.

The growing trend of not getting vaccinated has lead to a whole new trend. Dieing of Polio.


From the CDC themselves
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Is polio still a disease seen in the United States?

The last cases of naturally occurring paralytic polio in the United States were in 1979, when an outbreak occurred among the Amish in several Midwestern states. From 1980 through 1999, there were 152 confirmed cases of paralytic polio cases reported. Of the 152 cases, eight cases were acquired outside the United States and imported. The last imported case caused by wild poliovirus into the United States was reported in 1993. The remaining 144 cases were vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) caused by live oral polio vaccine (OPV).


The last natural case of polio was over three decades ago.. there you have it. The last imported case was over a decade ago. The disease was imported most likely throgh the live oral polio vaccine. So even the imported polio was caused by the vaccine, NOT naturally occuring polio. ALL other cases (and not since 1999) were CAUSED by the vaccine. To be clear, the live oral polio vaccine isn't used in the US anymore, but it is still used in other countries.


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I have never been vaccinated; and yet I never get sick!

Protip: no one uses aborted fetuses for development anymore. They use chicken eggs.
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QUOTE (Comeuppance @ Nov 7 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Protip: no one uses aborted fetuses for development anymore. They use chicken eggs.



From Rense.com (not sure how legit this source is LOL) Nor do I know if these are vaccines still used??

Acel-Immune DTaP - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis adsorbed, formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin Act HIB

Haemophilus - Influenza B Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* Haemophilus influenza Type B, polyribosylribitol phosphate ammonium sulfate, formalin, and sucrose

Attenuvax - Measles Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372
* measles live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, chick embryo

Biavax - Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800-672-6372
* rubella live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

BioThrax - Anthrax Adsorbed BioPort Corporation 517.327.1500
* nonencapsulated strain of Bacillus anthracis aluminum hydroxide, benzethonium chloride, and formaldehyde

DPT - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and acellular pertussis adsorbed, formaldehyde, aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, and thimerosal, washed sheep RBCs

Dryvax - Smallpox (not licensed d/t expiration) Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* live vaccinia virus, with "some microbial contaminants," according to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins Engerix-B

Recombinant Hepatitis B GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* genetic sequence of the hepatitis B virus that codes for the surface antigen (HbSAg), cloned into GMO yeast, aluminum hydroxide, and thimerosal

Fluvirin Medeva Pharmaceuticals 888.MEDEVA 716.274.5300
* influenza virus, neomycin, polymyxin, beta-propiolactone, chick embryonic fluid

FluShield Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* trivalent influenza virus, types A&B gentamicin sulphate formadehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) chick embryonic fluid

Havrix - Hepatitis A GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
* hepatitis A virus, formalin, aluminum hydroxide, 2-phenoxyethanol, and polysorbate 20 residual MRC5 proteins -human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

HiB Titer - Haemophilus Influenza B Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* haemophilus influenza B, polyribosylribitol phosphate, yeast, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal, and chemically defined yeast-based medium

Imovax Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* rabies virus adsorbed, neomycin sulfate, phenol, red indicator human albumin, human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

IPOL Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* 3 types of polio viruses neomycin, streptomycin, and polymyxin B formaldehyde, and 2-phenoxyethenol continuous line of monkey kidney cells

JE-VAX - Japanese Ancephalitis Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* Nakayama-NIH strain of Japanese encephalitis virus, inactivated formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (Tween-80), and thimerosal mouse serum proteins, and gelatin

LYMErix - Lyme GlaxoSmithKline 888-825-5249
* recombinant protein (OspA) from the outer surface of the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi kanamycin aluminum hydroxide, 2-phenoxyethenol, phosphate buffered saline

MMR - Measles-Mumps-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* measles, mumps, rubella live virus, neomycin sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

M-R-Vax - Measles-Rubella Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* measles, rubella live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin, chick embryonic fluid, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

Menomune - Meningococcal Connaught Laboratories 800.822.2463
* freeze-dried polysaccharide antigens from Neisseria meningitidis bacteria, thimerosal, and lactose

Meruvax I - Mumps Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* mumps live virus neomycin sorbitol hydrolized gelatin

NYVAC - (new smallpox batch, not licensed) Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* highly-attenuated vaccinia virus, polymyxcin B, sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins

Orimune - Oral Polio Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* 3 types of polio viruses, attenuated neomycin, streptomycin sorbitol monkey kidney cells and calf serum

Pneumovax - Streptococcus Pneumoniae Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* capsular polysaccharides from polyvalent (23 types), pneumococcal bacteria, phenol,

Prevnar Pneumococcal - 7-Valent Conjugate Vaccine Wyeth Lederle 800.934.5556
* saccharides from capsular Streptococcus pneumoniae antigens (7 serotypes) individually conjugated to diphtheria CRM 197 protein aluminum phosphate, ammonium sulfate, soy protein, yeast

RabAvert - Rabies Chiron Behring GmbH & Company 510.655.8729
* fixed-virus strain, Flury LEP neomycin, chlortetracycline, and amphotericin B, potassium glutamate, and sucrose human albumin, bovine gelatin and serum "from source countries known to be free of bovine spongioform encephalopathy," and chicken protein

Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed GlaxoSmithKline 800.366.8900 x5231
*rabies virus adsorbed, beta-propiolactone, aluminum phosphate, thimerosal, and phenol, red rhesus monkey fetal lung cells

Recombivax - Recombinant Hepatitis B Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* genetic sequence of the hepatitis B virus that codes for the surface antigen (HbSAg), cloned into GMO yeast, aluminum hydroxide, and thimerosal

RotaShield - Oral Tetravalent Rotavirus (recalled) Wyeth-Ayerst 800.934.5556
* 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant live viruses neomycin sulfate, amphotericin B potassium monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, sucrose, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) rhesus monkey fetal diploid cells, and bovine fetal serum smallpox (not licensed due to expiration)

40-yr old stuff "found" in Swiftwater, PA freezer Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* live vaccinia virus, with "some microbial contaminants," according to the Working Group on Civilian Biodefense polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins

Smallpox (new, not licensed) Acambis, Inc. 617.494.1339 in partnership with Baxter BioScience
* highly-attenuated vaccinia virus, polymyxcin B sulfate, streptomycin sulfate, chlortetracycline hydrochloride, and neomycin sulfate glycerin, and phenol -a compound obtained by distillation of coal tar vesicle fluid from calf skins

TheraCys BCG (intravesicle -not licensed in US for tuberculosis) Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* live attenuated strain of Mycobacterium bovis monosodium glutamate (MSG), and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80)

Tripedia - Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
*Corynebacterium diphtheriae and Clostridium tetani toxoids and acellular Bordetella pertussis adsorbed aluminum potassium sulfate, formaldehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin, bovine extract

US-sourced Typhim Vi - Typhoid Aventis Pasteur USA SA 800.VACCINE
* cell surface Vi polysaccharide from Salmonella typhi Ty2 strain, aspartame, phenol, and polydimethylsiloxane (silicone)

Varivax - Chickenpox Merck & Co., Inc. 800.672.6372
* varicella live virus neomycin phosphate, sucrose, and monosodium glutamate (MSG) processed gelatin, fetal bovine serum, guinea pig embryo cells, albumin from human blood, and human diploid cells from aborted fetal tissue

YF-VAX - Yellow Fever Aventis Pasteur USA 800.VACCINE
* 17D strain of yellow fever virus sorbitol chick embryo, and gelatin
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So you grab a wall of text from some website without checking its validity, and then expect me to take it seriously?

I recognize a few of those as ones that I just looked up not 15 minutes ago. Some of them used to use human embryonic cells for development back in the 60's; but they don't anymore.

Germany used to break treaties and systematically kill entire demographics of people; but they don't anymore.
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LOL I said I wasn't sure. It's hard to find accurate information on this. I saw this same chart posted on other websites. Anyway this website seems to be legit and have a complete listing of what is in each vaccine by each company ....

http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/
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QUOTE (Comeuppance @ Nov 7 2009, 03:44 PM) *
I have never been vaccinated; and yet I never get sick!

Protip: no one uses aborted fetuses for development anymore. They use chicken eggs.



You'll find that the CDC themselves admits to using aborted fetal tissue in the proccess of making vaccines. Yes, it is still used today to make vaccines. No new or current aborted fetuses are used, but aborted fetuses from decades ago are used.
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No, NO no way!
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This is me.
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I'm not going to vote because I don't think there are enough options to me. I am vaccinated, but I don't have every vaccine available, and I'm not sure what you mean by "selectively vaccinated". I am going to vaccinate my children, but probably not every vaccine available ever, and I feel that the majority of vaccines offered are vaccinated and so that isn't my problem.

Meh. It's different here, I guess. We're given the main childhood vaccines at school (tetanus/diphtheria, MMR, etc) so it's not like it was a big deal when I was a kid.
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