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    BP Wins a Big One in Oil Spill Litigation

    I've never heard of a judge throwing out a lawsuit because the crime happened in the past. Usually when one is suing/being sued the incident happened already.
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    Cure for Cancer?

    This is absolutely amazing. Those of you who actually think the United States government isn't capable of sinister acts of thievery and criminal activity need to watch this. It's disheartening to be honest and practically unbelievable.
  3. Link When there is a threat to this nation we must ask the proper questions. Who is the threat? What kind of threat to they pose? Is it big enough to garner the concern of nation's leaders? Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) not only believes militant Muslim's are a threat to our nation and it's laws (The Constitution) but she also believes that militant Christians pose a threat to undermining our nation and it's laws. We must present the facts. Surely militant Christians go on masacres killing in the name of God as often as Koran-toting militant Muslims, right? And they must burn American flags as often too, right? They've even gone so far as to run airplanes into buildings killing thousands of innocent civilians in the name of Jesus Christ, right? Well, if any of that were true, I'd say she might have a case however when talking about militant Muslims and militant Christians, there is no comparison. I mean, when you hear about a bomb threat or a man lighting his underwear on fire it usually involves a Muslim who hates America. I'm sorry lady but not every religion believes in blowing up the infidel. In fact the Bible teaches just the opposite of the Koran.
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    Mom sentenced for spanking her kid

    Whether or not it hurts more isn't criteria for child abuse. My mom would pinch me on the shoulder and man that would hurt, more so then being slapped on the wrist.
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    Mom sentenced for spanking her kid

    Isn't slapping your child still a "loose form of child abuse" whether or not it's on the hand? Spanking is completely permissible. I know the difference between child abuse and spanking from experience and traditional spanking is not child abuse.
  6. We're talking about militant religious folk not just mere Americans.
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    Mom sentenced for spanking her kid

    And see that existing laws are enforced. This is honestly a gigantic waste of money.
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    Cure for Cancer?

    I'm sorry, maybe I missed it but are not various medical records of specific trials not presented as well as previous medical records of those with severe brain tumors or cancer? How can "all the evidence" be based on testimony when testimony was not the only form of evidence presented? Maybe you know something I don't. You made many incorrect misleading statements. There are investors and donors that are not treated that supply funding and he is getting, now, support from the FDA and other research centers to further his work. Like I said numerous times, if this were bogus the FDA wouldn't have sought to shut him down like they did (failing to every time) and they wouldn't be supporting him now, as they are. You make these claims without any evidence to support them. Please give me all the evidence you've got to support yourself and while your at finish the documentary. For the last time they can't possibly have tested the formula he worked 2 decades on because he owns patents to the formula and they didn't use the proper protocols. Dr. Michael Friedman of NCI told Burzynski, "in response to your correspondence, one last time, we will revise the protocol with regard to dose and schedule in compliance, however, if you are unable or unwilling to provide the Antineoplastons in the near future, we will pursue alternative sources to procure the drug, or its active components, and will proceed." (Source) Dr. Burzynski state "The use of phenylacetate alone was not successful, and the NCI or Elan could not use the other ingredients of Antineoplastons because they were covered by the patents owned by me. They were trying to commercialize this, but without the other ingredients they couldn’t do much with this. This needed to be given in conjunction with the others." (View all this info here) He's in Phase III now.
  9. Link yeah, it's probably because we're destroying their country. I'd ban us too.
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    What was the last movie you watched?

    Pride and Prejudice (2005). Seriously, I was in suspense the whole film.
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    They Call It Dubstep.

    Lacrea is one of my favorite hiphop/Rap artists in the Christian Industry. Here's a heavy Dubstep version of one of his songs.
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    Watching this makes me feel like I have ADHD and Dyslexia at the same time. I swear this documentary was edited by a 2-year-old. I understand the premise of what they're talking about but nothing follows each other.
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    Greece Protests

    There are some seriously brave reporters out there and this girl is one of them.
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    Picture Post

    Fatbooth is my fav!
  15. Former US congresswoman and presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney told RT she went to Libya because she wanted to know the truth.
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    Cure for Cancer?

    In the film Dr. B. explains where he gets his funding from to do the trials and how much it costs to do one. It's a few million to do 1 and his funding is mainly from the public. I have not researched everything and no I can not say that this story is 100% accurate, however as I said before he was taken 6 times to the supreme court and found not guilty every time. The website has all the manuscripts and sources to their research. 1 + 2. His science only looks flawed because the people who took his work to reproduce it, as I mentioned and as the video mentions and proves, they reduced the amount of Antineoplaston formula and the elements down to nearly nothing and tried it on a total of 9 patients. You can't possibly deduce that his science is flawed when that's not his science! The protocols were changed and they published their shoddy formula publicly without realizing. 3. The price is expensive for the reasons I said above. Again, I don't know all the research and I've not read all there is to read on this subject, however there appears to be substantial evidence to support B. The problems with your questions is that you wouldn't be asking them had you just watched the documentary. I feel like I'm debating someone who does not know what he is referring to. I don't want to sound harsh at all but it's getting irritating. 1. They can't steal it legally. Why? Because he owns patents to 99% of what is in his formula. He would win in court on technicality against anyone who actually stole it because he owns the patents. 2. They tried to jail him at the Supreme Court level. He was taken there 6 separate times which the judge at the end concluded that the FDA had a vendetta against Dr. B for no reason whatsoever. 3. If they were trying to shut down a quack Doctor, couldn't they have done so the 6 times they took him to court not to mention the medical board hearings he had to attend for examination of his work and lab? He is supported by mainstream doctors as well. a few weeks after his last hearing he was indicted on something like 76 charges. then they dropped all of them suddenly. I mean, come on, take a man to the supreme court 6 times, find nothing wrong, then randomly indite the guy then randomly drop the inditements? So far $60 million of tax payer's dollars have been spent doing that circus act.
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    Pedestination or Free Will

    I would agree. There are many scriptures and arguments brought up that were never addressed that I would say are the most important. I have absolutely no time for debating and I some how managed to get a few posts in here.
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    Pedestination or Free Will

    The question of whether God endorses and even does sin isn't the point of the conversation (I know you're not turning that, but I'm prefacing my next statement with that in mind). God told Pharaoh through Aaron and Moses to "let My people go" but God gave testimony that He hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would not let the people go. This would be in direct contradiction to what you just said. We know however from scripture that God had purposefully done this because it was His plan the whole time to show His power to the whole world. I do not think the subject of Arminianism versus Calvinism should be taken to such extremes as to induce sectarianism. That would be going against the Bible. In light of that, please understand James that although I disagree with you I do not necessarily view this as a matter of salvation wears there are factions within the reformed movement that can generate this feeling. It is however important to come to a clear understanding of God's sovereign work in bringing about His purpose in all things be it the death of someone close, the act of adultery or the growing of a new tree. Questions I have for those in opposition to God's complete sovereignty over man's perceived freewill are these: 1. Do you believe you had a choice in being born? 2. Do you believe every breath from you have comes from God as a gift not by your good works but by grace? 3. Do you believe that God actually sustains the world? "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." -Revelation 13:8 You said this very well Zabby.
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    Pedestination or Free Will

    I completely understand what you're saying but you didn't address any of the many scriptures I gave you describing how God was the one who either hardened the subject's heart or was the cause and catalyst to one's destruction or is the one who ordains and plans man's steps or how God turns the king's heart whichever way He chooses, etc. Secondly your last sentence is slightly different than what you've actually been saying since the beginning of this thread. You mentioned God not "impeding" on man's sovereignty and that He won't do it but here you are saying that "He doesn't force everyone" to come to repentance. If man's will is absolutely free then how can God force that man, against His will (i.e. Paul) to come to the true knowledge of the true God and accept that true knowledge resulting in the belief that Jesus is the Christ, or that He died on a cross, or that He is the Son of God? Either man has free will or he doesn't. As I said before, man has a will but I do not believe it is completely free. I completely agree with you/ However, as I explained before, God hardened Pharaoh's heart. God was the one who did that on purpose. It's hard to grasp but I do believe that God is sovereign even over our unbelief. The Bondage of The Will Martin Luther Abridged 1525 A.D. Since God's foreknowledge is not uncertain, "free-will" is non-existent It is fundamentally necessary and healthy for Christians to acknowledge that God foreknows nothing uncertainly, but that He foresees, purposes, and does all things according to His own immutable, eternal and infallible will. This bombshell knocks "free-will" flat, and utterly shatters it; so that those who want to assert it must either deny my bombshell, or pretend not to notice it, or find some other way of dodging it. Surely it was you, my good Erasmus, who a moment ago asserted that God is by nature just, and kindness itself? If this is true, does it not follow that He is immutably just and kind? that, as His nature remains unchanged to all eternity, so do His justice and kindness? And what is said of His justice and kindness must be said also of His knowledge, His wisdom, His goodness, His will, and the other Divine attributes. But if it is religious, godly and wholesome, to affirm these things of God, as you do, what has come over you, that now you should contradict yourself by affirming that it is irreligious, idle and vain to say that God foreknows by necessity? You insist that we should learn the immutability of God's will, while forbidding us to know the immutably of His foreknowledge! Do you suppose that He does not will what He foreknows, or that He does not foreknow what He wills? If he wills what He foreknows, His will is eternal and changeless, because His nature is so. From which it follows, by resistless logic, that all we do, however it may appear to us to be done freely and optionally, is in reality done necessarily and immutably in respect of God's will. For the will of God is effective and cannot be impeded, since power belongs to God's nature; and His wisdom is such that He cannot be deceived. Since, then His will is not impeded, what is done cannot but be done where, when, how, as far as, and by whom, He foresees and wills...
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    Pedestination or Free Will

    Definitely. I was only saying that you can use an example for so long. But I understand what you're saying. As I said previously "I think there are both will and predestination present at the same time." I do not believe however that man's will is free. As I explained above, freedom is absolute. You either are or are not free, you either have or have not free will. I believe we do have the ability to make decisions and that God is in no way responsible for those decisions, such as David's to commit adultery. When you say that God would not "impede their [man's] sovereignty" you are drawing a conclusion from ideas that don't exist. Man to begin with is not nor has nor will ever be sovereign. I don't think you meant to use that word so I won't build a mound out of a molehill. The fact still remains however that God will cause men to become His own. Look at Paul. There are multiple things at work here. First we see irresistible grace and God's irresistible power. Jesus spoke but a few words and Paul's reply gives us a picture of his total submission to the will of God not because Paul all of a sudden had an epiphany to serve the Lord and made a conscious decision but because of Christ irresistible power and grace. Secondly Christ appears to Ananias and explains to him that Paul is a chosen vessel to bear Christ's name before not only kings and Jews but unto gentiles. Paul was chosen of by God to bear Christ's name. Paul did not choose this for himself but Christ did. Remember, Paul was on his way to arrest and persecute Christians but Christ Himself intervened against His will and plan to do so and rendered Him motionless and completely submitted to the will of Christ. To that end, Christ had commanded Paul to a course different than what he had intended. Again, Paul was on his way to persecute Christians in Damascus but Christ commanded Paul when he said "go into the street which is called Straight." So not only do we see God's irresistible grace and power written out in the text but we also see Paul's complete submission against his personal will to the will of God which was ultimately his salvation and his predestined call to bring Christ's name to the world. This is one example of how God will "impede" on one's sovereignty to do their own will, another I gave previously of Pharaoh who's heart was hardened by God Himself and raised up Pharaoh for the purpose of showing His power to the world. We also see that God raises up vessels for honor and dishonor. This would be a hard one to conceive coming from the perspective that God doesn't change man's plans for His own. Hope this helps Sky
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    Pedestination or Free Will

    Using a poem as an example only goes so far. Whether Ophelia died as a result of natural causes or at the hand of Shakespear doesn't exactly matter. In the real world either could have been the means to Ophelia's death but at the end of the day God had ordained her death the moment she ceased to breathe and it is my belief that God had even planned it. Of course, the use of the poem is hypothetical but the principal still remains. If God has numbered our days and if God ordains our steps then it is He who had planned the end and is not just a spectator. But then your will isn't technically "free." Freedom is an absolute, either you have it or you don't. You aren't a partial slave or half free, you are either fully in submission to the will of your master or have your freedom in its entirety. I'm not saying we're robots and I'm also not blaming God for sin. As I said earlier, this is a complex topic and I think there are both will and predestination present at the same time however I do not believe God is a spectator who merely knows our future by any means.
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    Pedestination or Free Will

    I would have agreed with you if it were not for intense study on this subject which i believe is fundamentally flawed. This viewpoint, which I held at one time, puts God as a spectator of future events. A God who can see the future but didn't ordain it or have his hand involved in the actions therein. This type of reasoning makes random chance the protagonist of our great journey called life and God the antagonist. This does not stand the test of Biblical truth but is rather used as an apology for events that man can't explain. If we use this type of logic we must conclude that God is either sovereign, "supreme in power; possessing supreme dominion; as a sovereign ruler of the universe" and walk in those things which he as ordained for us to walk in (Ephesians 2:10) or not sovereign at all. If God caused the flood then it wasn't Him merely reading the life story of all those who had died but Him ordaining their destruction. It is not necessarily an idea to take lightly however the truth of the matter is that God was the one who had been the catalyst in that huge world-wide event. God was also the one that hardened Pharaoh's heart (Exodus 9:7, 10:20) and that the reason God had raised Pharaoh up is that "I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will [have mercy], and whom he will he hardeneth." (Romans 9:17-18). God's purpose in raising up Pharaoh was to show his power and to declare his name throughout the earth. That's amazing to me. Isaiah 48:3 says “I foretold the former things long ago, my mouth announced them and I made them known; then suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.” Notice how the verse does not say "foreknew." The things that God speaks that He does. Proverbs 16:33 states "The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof [is] of the LORD" and Proverbs 21:1 states "The king's heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will." The LORD is acting not as one watching a play in the blink of an eye but one sovereignly at work throughout the whole of the play from beginning to its intended foreordained end. I do not claim to own all knowledge of this complex idea, however to say that God is just reading a play and knows the outcome is like saying that God has no hand in its outcome yet scripture would indicate just the opposite. That God had foreordained the coming Messiah who was "slain since before the foundation of the world" (Revelation 13:8) "who chose us in Him before the foundation of the world" (Ephesians 1:4) who by His will predestined us to adoption through His Son Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:5) and will ultimately, according to his will and plan return to bring us home.
  23. They've had thousands over the last 4 months these just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.