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  1. Welcome back, my good friend! :woot:

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    Was this a sin?

    How do you know? You are not a christian so you cannot discern the things of the spirit according to scripture. ---------- Post added at 10:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 PM ---------- I see you are trying to reinterpret scripture in your own image again Mark. I have just searched the New Testament and the word "sin" appears in 59 verses. About 90% of the time, the word means an offence and the other 10% means miss the mark. The word love does not appear in any reference. What you might say, you have missed the "mark" again. ---------- Post added at 10:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:06 PM ---------- Ephesians 5:27: That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Spot means stain or soil. Holy means blameless and faultless.
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    As I am not required to debate anything, I am at liberty to comment only, you are definitely debating on your level.
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    Stop being so childish.
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    Is Modern Youth Ministry Biblical?

    This verse here talks about a son in terms of immediate, remote or figuratively. Which one is determined by its context. In this case it would be immediate. Here we are talking about an elder woman which is the same word for Elder (presbuteros) meaning age. Sister means natural or eclesiastically, who are to treated with purity. This means biological sisters and sisters in Christ. There is no indication either way here. The emphasis is on age as in older women teaching younger women. In terms of context, it would have been natural and normal fror a daughter to learn from her mother and for the younger women in the fellowship to respect the older women.
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    Yes it is.
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    Why is that? Is it due to the fact that I don't fall for your bait? ---------- Post added at 08:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 PM ---------- I guess it is a bit like a wind blowing through a junk yard and a Boeing 747 appears out of nowhere.
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    Thankyou. Probably a good move on your part if you are low on patience.
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    Is Modern Youth Ministry Biblical?

    I will need the verses you are referring to so that I can delve into the Greek.
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    Thankyou for letting me know that your right and I am wrong. ---------- Post added at 09:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 PM ---------- Yes. ---------- Post added at 09:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 PM ---------- I do. Sorry to hear about you. ---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 PM ---------- Mine isn't. I do. Plus I have faith without which it is impossible to please God. I can. ---------- Post added at 09:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ---------- No there isn't. ---------- Post added at 09:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 PM ---------- That is very interesting considering it never happened. ---------- Post added at 09:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 PM ---------- Its very simple. Most atheists say the big bang is how it all started and evolution is how it all developed. I didn't say it, the atheists did. No there isn't. All there is specualation and theory. Nothing has ever been proven. I have 10 books on my bookshelves that all show evolution is fiction. ---------- Post added at 09:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ---------- Having read 10 books on the subject and dialogued with atheists, it is very clear that atheism is rebellion against God. The ones I have dialogued with are atheists. Thankyou for putting me in my place. I guess being a nobody, I will have to stick with God. He doesn't put me down. ---------- Post added at 09:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:37 PM ---------- I am not talking to God by any chance?
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    Thanks for giving me a laugh at your wild claims and your faith in the people on this forum as the sum total of wisdom regarding creation. To date there are 2.2 billion christians on the earth. How many of them have you interviewed to ascertain their view on Creation? ---------- Post added at 09:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ---------- Do you? I am pleased to say I don't as it is very clear that in the beginning God created heaven and earth and so far I have not found God to be a liar. ---------- Post added at 10:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:57 PM ---------- Except there is no evidence that is what happened and it takes a lot of faith to believe that one second there was nothing and then a big bang and then their was everything. I am afraid I don't have enough faith to believe in evolution. ---------- Post added at 10:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ---------- Steven Hawking is an atheist so he is going to find anything that he can use to rule God out of creation. Atheism is rebellion against the God of the universe as in "we will not have this man to reign over us" so they have nothing to offer the christian who believes that the Bible is the word of God and that he does not lie. If God said he created the heavens and the earth in six days, I have no reason to believe otherwise. If he wanted us to understand it was not six literal days I am sure he is quite able to have chosen different words to convey a different idea, but he didn't. To start argueing otherwise is a waste of time because it isn't going to change anything. In our church we don't waste time argueing over literal or metaphorical. We prefer to exalt Jesus and teach the Word believing that the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth as Jesus said he would.
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    I was watching a natural history programme on TV the other day and discovered that no two Zebras have the same stripe pattern. Awesome !!! ---------- Post added at 10:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:22 PM ---------- Most believers I know do not believe in evolution, the big bang or anything scientific that is contrary to God's word. Science is nothing more than the abiltiy given by God to understand his creation.
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    Is Modern Youth Ministry Biblical?

    If the bible is our guide to faith and practice as most denominations claim, one has to ask where do we find a stand alone youth ministry in scripture? Like so many things in church, we have a tendancy to justify it if it is "succesful" whatever that means. The NT church was a family church. Families met together, not as seperate entities according to age. Children obeyed their parents and the scripture says that we should bring up our children, not paid pastors.
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    Salvation through Works?

    I am with you trueimage. If we have to do works to obtain our salvation we do not need the sacrifice of Christ on Calvary and his shed blood. I am reminded of the first evangelistic preaching on the day of Pentecost. When Peter was asked "what did the hearers have to do" he said "repent and be baptised." He did not say, "repent and be baptised and do good works." if works were necessary for salvation, I am quite sure that the Holy Spirit who was speaking through Peter would have conveyed this thought to the people listening. He didn't so that would suggest to me that works were a response to being saved, not a requirement for salvation. I work in the Catholic education system as a non catholic and I have had many conversations with devoted catholics of many years standing. All of them say that they have to earn their salvation with good works and the more they do the better chance they have of getting it. In other words, they have no assurance of salvation. The other thing they tell me is that the more they go to mass the less time they will spend in purgatory. My question is, if the RCC does not teach this, why do catholics believe this?
  15. Thankyou for your comment. One does not have to look far to see that it is a major problem in the chucrh.