AwedbyTruth Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/e...icle1600686.ece I've never been so disappointed in a country. Usually someone can defend there position but to change history just to make people feel better.... It's truly depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-M Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Well this is bizarre Last I checked, denying the Holocaust was a federal crime in most European countries... Oh well, if someone's going to deny the Holocaust, they'll do it whether they're taught it in school or not. What's more, if anyone cares about history, they'll find out on their own. If they don't, (heaven forbid), the class is wasted on them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigwiggles Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 For the record, it's not the country doing it, it's individula teachers. We can be outraged if the government doesn't enact a strict curriculum that makes teachers teach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwedbyTruth Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 That's what I am saying. Who is encouraging it to be taken out of the curriculum? And why isn't the government saying, "No, you will teach this because it's history." If they don't teach it, it could happen to the Jews all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigwiggles Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 it will take time to pass things through education department and the government to make it required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reincarnate Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I read this a while ago. Yeah, it's pretty stupid, but it's definitely not something that's taking place in most schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBelle82 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 It wasn't just the Jews either but also gypsies, lesbians, gays, women in general, communists. But the rest of your post I agree with. That's what I am saying. Who is encouraging it to be taken out of the curriculum? And why isn't the government saying, "No, you will teach this because it's history." If they don't teach it, it could happen to the Jews all over again.[/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwedbyTruth Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated with the German and Russian peoples looking the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FirefromtheEast Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I heard about this before. Its stupid to take this out of history classes, as it is a part of recent history. All parts of history should be taught, no matter how "offecive" they may potentially be to certain groups of people. Denying parts of history can be dangerous, as AwedbyTruth pointed out. It wasn't just the Jews either but also gypsies, lesbians, gays, women in general, communists. But the rest of your post I agree with.[/b] *Roma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwedbyTruth Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share Posted January 12, 2008 Rome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelekineticManiac Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Yeha this is lame, we should know what really history was, it wasnt all candy and roses, but more blood and crime. and by denying anything bad happened in the past is plain ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reincarnate Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Roma, not Rome. It's the more official, less derogatory I guess term for gypsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 This is both disgusting and ridiculous - I hope the Government gives a long prison sentence to whoever thought of this idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unconscious Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Well, that's certainly stupid and annoying. Least it's not happening everywhere. ...yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redemption Draweth Nigh Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Well, that's certainly stupid and annoying.Least it's not happening everywhere. ...yet.[/b] That's right... yet. But it slowly will catch up. Hatred of the Jews is natural for most for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FirefromtheEast Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 That's right... yet. But it slowly will catch up. Hatred of the Jews is natural for most for some reason.[/b] The Holocaust was supposed to be an "ethnic cleansing" sort of thing and did not only target the Jews. This is both disgusting and ridiculous - I hope the Government gives a long prison sentence to whoever thought of this idea.[/b]Agree with Yoda."because they do not want to cause offence to children from certain races or religions, a report claims."[/b] Who exactly are they afraid of offending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reincarnate Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The Holocaust was supposed to be an "ethnic cleansing" sort of thing and did not only target the Jews.[/b] But the Jews were definitely the main target, receiving the most animosity during the Holocaust. Not to say that everyone else didn't suffer greatly, but there's no denying that the Jews had it the worst. Also, it's not the other victims that are really the source of this new practice in England. You said yourself once before that they were afraid of offending Muslims, because it's Muslims that have problems with Jews. They wouldn't be offended by the idea of mass exterminations of Roma, homosexuals, or communists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigwiggles Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 don't stick these guys in prison, geez. the problem is not the holocost and the crusades and the teacher not wanting to teach it, it's the overwhelming fear of being politically correct all the time and not offending people. If the teachers offend the student it's the teacher that has to pay, unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!Ann!! Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 This is idiotic. They can't just skip over an important part of history to avoid offending somebody(Who, the Nazis?) Pure idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ownage Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 They failed to avoid offending somebody. For I am offended at the abuse of history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakob Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 What I'd like to ask, is why do people still mourn over history? What's done is done, I was at Auschwitz, and mm.. I left the same as I entered, perfectly fine. People die, this was just a mass extermination God knew would happen. Not like it will matter when the Earth is destroyed either, but that's just my opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armouredapple Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I agree Guitar Guy!! It's happened, it's History. why not stop teaching the battle of Hastings, Workhouses, King Louis VXIII of France?? it's just unneeded!! And the crusades are a very interesting subject in History!! And now I'm notgoing to learn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong-east-wind Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 What I'd like to ask, is why do people still mourn over history? What's done is done, I was at Auschwitz, and mm.. I left the same as I entered, perfectly fine. People die, this was just a mass extermination God knew would happen.Not like it will matter when the Earth is destroyed either, but that's just my opinion...[/b] For some of us, it's a part of our heritage. If I'd been born only 50 or 60 years before I was, I would've been killed along with the rest of my family. It's good to remember the past, because once people forget the past, they're liable to repeat the same mistakes. Besides, especially for Jews [i can't speak for the other ethnic groups who were targeted, because I don't know personally how they feel about it], it's a way of honoring and showing respect to those who were victims of the Holocaust. Forgetting it happened is forgetting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FirefromtheEast Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 For some of us, it's a part of our heritage. If I'd been born only 50 or 60 years before I was, I would've been killed along with the rest of my family. It's good to remember the past, because once people forget the past, they're liable to repeat the same mistakes.Besides, especially for Jews [i can't speak for the other ethnic groups who were targeted, because I don't know personally how they feel about it], it's a way of honoring and showing respect to those who were victims of the Holocaust. Forgetting it happened is forgetting them.[/b] I agree Ana. It is dishonouring those who died to deny the Holocaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakob Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 My grandma was a Jewish pole who got out. Plus I also know a few survivors from the Holocaust when I visited Poland. My heritage too, I just am comfortable is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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