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Me too, and given that most people's first attempt at a passionate kiss looks like a mule trying to eat a sugar cube through a split rail fence, I'd rather kiss whilst dating so that by the time I am engaged/married I'll be well comfortable with it.

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Is one of the best things I've ever heard. XD

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LOL! yep, pretty much

This.

Is one of the best things I've ever heard. XD

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I'm saving direct eye contact for my wedding night. :P
Um ur standerdz r wayyyy tew loww. im nawt gunna evn think abowt marreg or luv until mai wedding nite. cuz dats a sin ;)

On a serious note, I just want love and romance to take its sweet ol', God-designated, natural time. I'll stop at kissing. I'm not gonna wait for the first kiss until engagement or my wedding, but I'm not into the whole "kiss on the first date (or third date)" thing. Let it happen at the right time. I MIGHT allow some frenching in the couple weeks before the wedding day, so that the wedding night is a little more comfortable, but idk.

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Every time I see that gif, I cringe.

I know, right...

Anyway, if I were to explain my reasoning, I'd probably get a referral, so I'll just leave it at this;

Do what you please, when you please. I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of sex like its the worst sin in the bible. Uh, last time I checked, all the sins in the bible are on a flat playing field. There is not sin worse than another besides the 7 deadly sins. Killing a baby is just as bad as r*ping someone. Sure, they're both bad, but neither of them are "worse" in God's eyes, maybe in mans, but no. I'm not saying sex or making out before marriage is good, but I'm just tired of people acting like it's one of the worst sins. ;-;

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I know, right...

Anyway, if I were to explain my reasoning, I'd probably get a referral, so I'll just leave it at this;

Do what you please, when you please. I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of sex like its the worst sin in the bible. Uh, last time I checked, all the sins in the bible are on a flat playing field. There is not sin worse than another besides the 7 deadly sins. Killing a baby is just as bad as r*ping someone. Sure, they're both bad, but neither of them are "worse" in God's eyes, maybe in mans, but no. I'm not saying sex or making out before marriage is good, but I'm just tired of people acting like it's one of the worst sins. ;-;

Keep in mind: I'm NOT saying premarital sex IS the worst sin. But I think this is the reason why such a big deal is made about it:

Most other sins, such as lying and stealing, are changeable and can be totally changed, reversed, etc. And often without a trace if you didn't get too carried away with it. Meaning, there's no permanent consequence if you really repent and nip it in the bud. However, sex is different. Even if you truly repent and never have sex again until your wedding night, that STD or that unplanned child ain't going away. And I know not all sexually active teens/unmarried people have these consequences. But if they do happen, you're often stuck with them for the rest of your life.

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Every time I see that gif, I cringe.

I don't even understand how their first kiss could be that bad...

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I've yet to kiss, except on the cheek, with my fiancee, and we intend to keep it that way.

For some reason, on rereading this sounds a bit haughty. I'm not saying that this is important or a special mark of holiness. It's just a personal convinction that we have as a couple. It's a good line for us. Could we stay pure if we did kiss? Probably. Would I judge anyone who does kiss? Absolutely not. But we want to hold to this standard because it is what we believe God has asked of us as Caleb and Ashley.

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There is not sin worse than another besides the 7 deadly sins.
I reject this notion as a lactose-intolerant Eskimo rejects hot cheese. There is no ground for it either in the Bible or reason. If this is true, then an 8-year-old refusing to clean his room is sinning as much as a 40-year-old man raping and murdering a young girl. Such a notion is absurd.

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I don't even understand how their first kiss could be that bad...

That's the couple that only held hands the whole time they dated. They never even hugged.

So... AMG WE'RE TOUCHING. AMG WE CAN SMELL EACH OTHER NOW. AMG HIS MOUTH...RIGHT THERE....*awkward kiss*. Like... the first time a little kid has candy then totally OD's on the sugar... that's what happened here. XD

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That's the couple that only held hands the whole time they dated. They never even hugged.

So... AMG WE'RE TOUCHING. AMG WE CAN SMELL EACH OTHER NOW. AMG HIS MOUTH...RIGHT THERE....*awkward kiss*. Like... the first time a little kid has candy then totally OD's on the sugar... that's what happened here. XD

Oh yeah, I remember the vid someone posted a while back.

They literally look like they're snacking on each other's faces. She's worse than he is, though. Her tongue is working overtime...

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But like... have they ever SEEN a good kiss? Or was it too impure for them to watch some nice movie kisses?

And no, first kisses are rarely like that... but still...

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But like... have they ever SEEN a good kiss? Or was it too impure for them to watch some nice movie kisses?

And no' date=' first kisses are rarely like that... but still...[/quote']

WATCHING KISSES ON TV? THAT'S HEATHEN!!

And yet, that was the couple who had their wedding night all planned out.

At 6:05 we make out, at 6:07 I touch this, 6:08 you touch that... they were sick.

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WATCHING KISSES ON TV? THAT'S HEATHEN!!

And yet, that was the couple who had their wedding night all planned out.

At 6:05 we make out, at 6:07 I touch this, 6:08 you touch that... they were sick.

It's like they were directing a porno. How pure.

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Keep in mind: I'm NOT saying premarital sex IS the worst sin. But I think this is the reason why such a big deal is made about it:

Most other sins' date=' such as lying and stealing, are changeable and can be totally changed, reversed, etc. And often without a trace if you didn't get too carried away with it. Meaning, there's no permanent consequence if you really repent and nip it in the bud. However, sex is different. Even if you truly repent and never have sex again until your wedding night, that STD or that unplanned child ain't going away. And I know not all sexually active teens/unmarried people have these consequences. But if they do happen, you're often stuck with them for the rest of your life.[/quote']Actually, stealing can tarnish your permanent record, and make it difficult to find employment in the future. Lying can also irreparably damage relationships and friendships.

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Actually, stealing can tarnish your permanent record, and make it difficult to find employment in the future. Lying can also irreparably damage relationships and friendships.
You sir... have a good point.

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After reading through the entire thread, I have a question. How sure are you all about keeping true to your stand when the time comes to make the decision? Has anyone done the purity pledge thingy?

Personally, I don't believe in sex before marriage or doing second/third base. I want to have something special on my wedding night. I think that kissing and cuddling is fine before marriage. Of course, then again, I once emphatically told my friends that I would never grind when dancing with a guy but did it anyway a couple of years later...

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After reading through the entire thread, I have a question. How sure are you all about keeping true to your stand when the time comes to make the decision? Has anyone done the purity pledge thingy?

Personally, I don't believe in sex before marriage or doing second/third base. I want to have something special on my wedding night. I think that kissing and cuddling is fine before marriage. Of course, then again, I once emphatically told my friends that I would never grind when dancing with a guy but did it anyway a couple of years later...

You are right that it's harder to actually stick to these standards when you're in a relationship or in that moment. I'm just entering my first actually relationship, and even now my thoughts will go crazy and my mind gets blinded by love... sometimes going into not-so-pure territory. I think it's a matter of keeping the relationship with you and the Big Man Upstairs strong so you won't want to strand off and sin too much, and making sure you're with someone who is also very committed to sticking to the pure lifestyle.

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Kissing on say the forehead, or the cheek, and hugging are fine - but no tongue or making out until the altar. Kind of like the limits I had as a kid.

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I probably won't go further than kissing on the cheek, or holding hands. You can see it from a guys point of view in the book "Dating with Integrity". I really liked that book, beacuse it didn't really say all things are forbidden, but you shouldn't really go into the stereotypically boyfriend-girlfriend relationship,but instead keep it more of a bestfriend relationship, so that way you get to see the real person, not just the romantic side. And then, if things aren't working out or anything, you won't be as much emotionally attached as if it was a bf-gf relationship. :)

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Today I realized that Kiss by Prince isn't on Youtube because of this thread. I hope you know how desperately unhappy you've all made me. Anyway.

 

Snogging is fuuuuuun. Do more of it. Unless you're irresponsible. Then you should get some responsibles first \o/

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Today I realized that Kiss by Prince isn't on Youtube because of this thread. I hope you know how desperately unhappy you've all made me. Anyway.

 

Snogging is fuuuuuun. Do more of it. Unless you're irresponsible. Then you should get some responsibles first \o/

 

P-reach. 

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Ermagherd such bad Catholic ;_________;

I honestly don't know. The gf is visiting for the summer and she's pretty, erm, ready to go. If the situation does end up arising I'd like to think I'd stop short of "getting it in." But I might not ;____;

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I WANNA SNOG SOMEONE. *sniffles* T_T

 

I wish I could see opinions on this sort of question broken down by age and denomination. For some reason I think that would be interesting.

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