Yeah So I'm Dating A Witch

[Zabby]

Guys, please try to keep it to the topic. I dun want any tangent debates goin' on here.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Not all who practice witchcraft follow Satan. .-.

Actually whether they believe it or not witchcraft draws on demonic power

I know I am stating the obvious, but I think it needs to be stated openly in this argument: Witchcraft is frowned upon by both God and most people. If you believe you have a strong faith and you can deal with this, then go for it. God can use you to change her life and He can help you build your faith. Yet, guard your heart and don't let your faith be weakened.

Don't try to change her, but try to lead her in the right direction. Don't be swayed into hanging in the middle or staying halfway in the issue, because if you do, you could very easily become used to it and lose your chance to bring her to God. Let her know how you feel about her as a witch and be completely straight with her so she may understand your point. Everything happens for a reason. I believe God will help you make a difference in this girl's life.

Thank you, will do

There is God, and there is Satan. There is no in-between.

I agree with you on the premise of withcraft but not everything. If you'll remember there are the lukewarm who God will spit out

[Madame Captain]

Demonic power = energy. Lemme right this down since I obviously don't know what I practice.

You'd think that since you want opinions, you'd listen to a witch. .-. WiccanCrow isn't even Wiccan anymore.

You want her to stop? Well, you'll keep wanting it until she does it and if she doesn't, it'll just be a strain on the relationship. Tell her how you feel or waste your time waiting to break up.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Demonic power = energy. Lemme right this down since I obviously don't know what I practice.

You'd think that since you want opinions, you'd listen to a witch. .-. WiccanCrow isn't even Wiccan anymore.

You want her to stop? Well, you'll keep wanting it until she does it and if she doesn't, it'll just be a strain on the relationship. Tell her how you feel or waste your time waiting to break up.

That's true. I guess I'll have to call her on it then. I love her to death myself but I just feel like she's not God's match for me. I don't know 3':

[MoonAndStars]

That's true. I guess I'll have to call her on it then. I love her to death myself but I just feel like she's not God's match for me. I don't know 3':

If you're having these kind of doubts about her... don't ignore it. Act on it. Praying for you

[Guest TheNewBreed]

If you're having these kind of doubts about her... don't ignore it. Act on it. Praying for you

I gave it quite a bit of thought and it mentions numerous times in the Bible (as well as some of the members here) that children of God should never establish relations with secular members of the opposite sex. I believe she is not good for me and as much as I love her I can't continue our relationship just hoping she'll be Saved or I won't turn more to her ways. There's only one solution. I never dated before because I never wanted to dump someone. I should've kept to my own ideology, now I have to do something that will probably hurt her bad :'(

[MoonAndStars]

I gave it quite a bit of thought and it mentions numerous times in the Bible (as well as some of the members here) that children of God should never establish relations with secular members of the opposite sex. I believe she is not good for me and as much as I love her I can't continue our relationship just hoping she'll be Saved or I won't turn more to her ways. There's only one solution. I never dated before because I never wanted to dump someone. I should've kept to my own ideology, now I have to do something that will probably hurt her bad :'(

Many times, the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Many times' date=' the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.[/quote']

Yep. She won't even know why cause she didn't do anything wrong, she just... UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH this sucks!

[NutterButterLove]

Yep. She won't even know why cause she didn't do anything wrong, she just... UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH this sucks!

Just hold on and keep trusting in God! God sees what you're doing =) Remember that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him! (Hebrews 11:6)

[Wesker]

So long as she is not trying to summon Satan or Mephistopheles, I think you are pretty good.

I gave it quite a bit of thought and it mentions numerous times in the Bible (as well as some of the members here) that children of God should never establish relations with secular members of the opposite sex. I believe she is not good for me and as much as I love her I can't continue our relationship just hoping she'll be Saved or I won't turn more to her ways. There's only one solution. I never dated before because I never wanted to dump someone. I should've kept to my own ideology, now I have to do something that will probably hurt her bad :'(

So you can only love and be with those who believe the same as you do? If that is the case, then you probably never truly loved this girl in the first place. You only loved an illusion, because you only loved her for her particular qualities, not her as a singularity -- an individual soul.

[kellenabs127]

Pray for her, and STOP DATING HER. God calls us to date other Christians. Also, don't continue dating her just so that you can help her to become Christian. The term for that is "missionary dating," and it is a horrible process, because odds are that she will affect you before you affect her. I know someone who was dating someone involved in witchcraft, and he quickly went from a strong Christian to someone who also practices witchcraft. Please take my advice seriously. It may save your faith.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Just hold on and keep trusting in God! God sees what you're doing =) Remember that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him! (Hebrews 11:6)[/quote

Aaaaah I can't and won't do it :/ I'm going to keep seeing her, I just hope she comes to God

So long as she is not trying to summon Satan or Mephistopheles, I think you are pretty good.

So you can only love and be with those who believe the same as you do? If that is the case, then you probably never truly loved this girl in the first place. You only loved an illusion, because you only loved her for her particular qualities, not her as a singularity -- an individual soul.

That's why I can't leave her, because I do love her :/

[Bobartles]

*unpopular opinion coming up*

Stay with her, that's my advice. Shouldn't be long until she realises that the whole witchcraft stuff doesn't do anything.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

*unpopular opinion coming up*

Stay with her, that's my advice. Shouldn't be long until she realises that the whole witchcraft stuff doesn't do anything.

That's what I'm sort of thinking

[Wesker]

Aaaaah I can't and won't do it :/ I'm going to keep seeing her, I just hope she comes to Go

That's why I can't leave her, because I do love her :/

Good for you, man. You are then living your life in Christ's example. God bless.

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*unpopular opinion coming up*

Stay with her, that's my advice. Shouldn't be long until she realises that the whole witchcraft stuff doesn't do anything.

Perhaps magic can act as a kind of meditation, and in that it might be good, but so far as it manipulating the natural world, I am incredibly skeptical.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Good for you, man. You are then living your life in Christ's example. God bless.

I feel the same way about it

[NutterButterLove]

Proverbs 13:20, NIV- "Walk with the wise and become wise, for a companion if fools suffers harm."

Proverbs 13:20, NLT- "Walk with the wise and become wise, associate with fools and get in trouble."

And I know you know this already, but seriously. Witchcraft is a BIG deal. Ex- Ezekiel 13, Deuteronomy 18, Revelation 21.

Just saying it like it is. I personally think you're playing with fire here.

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Proverbs 13:20, NIV- "Walk with the wise and become wise, for a companion if fools suffers harm."

Proverbs 13:20, NLT- "Walk with the wise and become wise, associate with fools and get in trouble."

And I know you know this already, but seriously. Witchcraft is a BIG deal. Ex- Ezekiel 13, Deuteronomy 18, Revelation 21.

Just saying it like it is. I personally think you're playing with fire here.

So? She's into witchcraft which is Satanic, I'm a pornography addict which is equally as Satanic. We all have our dirt, I fail to see how hers is worse than mine

[NutterButterLove]

So? She's into witchcraft which is Satanic, I'm a pornography addict which is equally as Satanic. We all have our dirt, I fail to see how hers is worse than mine

Except she is not a Christian (from my understanding), nor does she seek to become one.

[kb5462]

So? She's into witchcraft which is Satanic, I'm a pornography addict which is equally as Satanic. We all have our dirt, I fail to see how hers is worse than mine

I think the point isn't about "Whose dirt is worse". The point is this:

"Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." 2 Tim 2:22

Worshipping Satan is neither faithful, nor is it loving (because 'God is love', as per 1 John), nor is it peaceful (as Satan is our enemy in battle, as per Ephesians 6:10-18). Yes, you should be feeling pornography because it's just as bad, but really, do you think associating with the Devil will make it any better? Just because you are both sinful is not an excuse for you to stay together, expecting increasing grace.

"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.

Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace." Romans 6:1-13

[Guest TheNewBreed]

Except she is not a Christian (from my understanding), nor does she seek to become one.

That's what I'm going to speak with her about. She's already agreed to go to my youth group weekly and she's a nice person (not that we all aren't horribly wicked beings, you know what I mean) and someone I believe could definitely go to Christ. I'm not trying to change her though I believe she would be willing and wanting to give Christianity a try

I think the point isn't about "Whose dirt is worse". The point is this:

"Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." 2 Tim 2:22

Worshipping Satan is neither faithful, nor is it loving (because 'God is love', as per 1 John), nor is it peaceful (as Satan is our enemy in battle, as per Ephesians 6:10-18). Yes, you should be feeling pornography because it's just as bad, but really, do you think associating with the Devil will make it any better? Just because you are both sinful is not an excuse for you to stay together, expecting increasing grace.

"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.

Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him. The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God.

In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace." Romans 6:1-13

I get that but I'm not trying to say because we're both human the relationship will work, I just believe she's the most incredible woman I've ever met which is why I broke my no dating rule for her in the first place. I believe she would accept God wholeheartedly

[Wesker]

I think the point isn't about "Whose dirt is worse". The point is this:

"Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart." 2 Tim 2:22

Proverbs 13:20, NIV- "Walk with the wise and become wise, for a companion if fools suffers harm."

Proverbs 13:20, NLT- "Walk with the wise and become wise, associate with fools and get in trouble."

And I know you know this already, but seriously. Witchcraft is a BIG deal. Ex- Ezekiel 13, Deuteronomy 18, Revelation 21.

Just saying it like it is. I personally think you're playing with fire here.

I find no reason to be overly concerned about ancient superstitions. When the biblical literature was written, people believed that witches could really transform themselves into animals, place diabolical hexes on innocent persons, and contact the Devil. I am not all-knowing, but I have never met a witch that could do any of those things, nor do I know of any who believe to be able to do such things. We no longer believe in the evil eye and such in modern societies, so I do not believe it is commensurable to compare the biblical literature written in an ancient superstitious society to our modern understanding of the Natural World. Magic these days is akin to a highly ritualized form of meditation. A Satanist once told me that he gave up on the belief that it could ever affect the world around him. All it could do is focus, re-focus and enlighten (from his perspective) his own mind.

[petitrebel]

You can advise her, but never force your religion down her throat. I can see myself dating a non-Christian. I will try to convince him in the power of our Lord, but it's his life and beliefs.

[LewieGee]

I thought Christians didn't believe in witchcraft, just as Christians don't believe in other religions?

[Guest TheNewBreed]

We believe that witchcraft is of Satan's power and influence