It is rooted in the philosophy of "an eye for an eye," and that concept is transcended in the person of Christ.Originally Posted by JAG
It is rooted in the philosophy of "an eye for an eye," and that concept is transcended in the person of Christ.
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"What is the Absolute? Something that appears to us in fleeting experiences--say, through the gentle smile of a beautiful woman, or even through the warm caring smile of a person who may otherwise seem ugly and rude. In such miraculous but extremely fragile moments, another dimension transpires through our reality. As such, the Absolute is easily corroded;it slips all too easily through our fingers and must be handled as carefully as a butterfly." - Slavoj Žižek
Once again...the whole job thing. Your argument is impotent, just let it rest.You fail to discuss the expense of bearing the child without insurance (which is enough to financially break someone).
Speaking of impotence...you base your entire case on the teachings of Paul - and once you're shown that Paul agrees with me you go, "oh wait...yeah...I meant Jesus!" Well, fortunately for you - today I'm going to educate a little. Yes, Jesus tells his disciples to cut unrepentant "christians" off from the brotherhood in Matthew 18.Secondly, can you show me where Christ said to exclude someone?
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Love is? Or what? *confused*
"To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you."
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I am going on an indefinite hiatus JAG. I wish you all the best. Even though we bicker day and night, I still love you.
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"What is the Absolute? Something that appears to us in fleeting experiences--say, through the gentle smile of a beautiful woman, or even through the warm caring smile of a person who may otherwise seem ugly and rude. In such miraculous but extremely fragile moments, another dimension transpires through our reality. As such, the Absolute is easily corroded;it slips all too easily through our fingers and must be handled as carefully as a butterfly." - Slavoj Žižek
Interesting to read all views and I too agree that there are standards to be met, though in this case it was tough to see that such a turn around for her occured, it does seem unfair and rather harsh at times.
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AgreedThe way it sounds she does not view what she has done as a sin, that is having a child out of wedlock, and if that is her view then the following applies:
"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person." -1 Corinthians 5:9-13
Again, if she views her having sexual relations as not being wrong, and is not repentant of it then, yes she should most definitely lose her position.
When people ask me “well how do you explain this? How can you prove this?” I don’t have to prove it to you, all I have to do is wait till reality proves it for me.
Again, you nay sayers can go head and mock, ridicule, but for those of us who knew what were looking at, after studying and researching this, based on our understanding of how they operate, we knew in our hearts, and still know.
While what she did was clearly sin, and some consequences were necessary, I think firing her has set a bad example for their student body. There may have been other, less final, ways to discipline her, maybe even to teach her properly.
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." John 8:7
While Jesus never condoned the adulterer's sin, He also had mercy on her and implored others to be more accepting. And immediately afterward, Jesus tells her to go and sin no more. Mercy and discipline go hand-in-hand sometimes. The school definitely could have handled it better.
May I point out that by sinning you are living a sinful-lifestyle. By being here you are living a sinful-lifestyle. We all sin. We were all born sinners. Just because you repent does not mean that you stop sinning or living a life full of sin. Rather Christ forgives you of all the sins you have made, are making, and will ever make.There is a major distinction between sinning and living a sinful lifestyle.
She made a mistake, we all do. Does this mean that they should have fired her? No I don't think so.
There contract stated that the teachers and staff were to be good role models. Her making a mistake and becoming pregnant before she is married is not setting a bad example, rather she can use that experience to witness to others.
While I agree that what she did was a sin, I don't think it warrants her getting fired. The emotional consequences and reaction from the community and guilt is punishment enough. Again, she made a mistake, but since it's not a school or student related action, it shouldn't result in a school punishment.
Plus, with a new baby on the way, she's gonna need more $$ and a job to support the kid. Ready or not, the baby's coming soon.
Who is anybody to judge her? Christianity teaches us that only God can judge us, it's not there place to condemn her. Also regardless of the sin, is it not just bad all round to fire a person with a baby on the way if they are fully capable of doing their job effectivly? As Christian we are taught to help those in need, she needed to not get fired from her job to give her baby a good life, nobodies going to hire a person with a new baby or who's still pregnant in this recession
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