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Can satan manipulate dreams?

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Can satan manipulate dreams? Can he make you dream of something that you would never want to dream about?

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no.

theres no proof or evidence of this. thisis why the evidence suggest that no the devil does not manipulate your dreams. If he did, he would have already goten everyone to jump off a cliff, or something.

reason why the devil cannot manipulate your dreams;

1) your dreams are consciously imbedded from your own thoughts, actions or experiences. To say he devil can control your thoughts, experience an actions is to say you have no freedom of will, or control over your own self.

2) if the devil could maniplate dreams, why not just manipulate every single human being and woman and child and animal to just kill each other while they sleep walk? Or, heck, if the devil can control your own free-will through morphean suspension? Boom; everyones a murderer, boom, everyone goes to hell, boom, the devil wins his almighty quest for glory to become god by shoving everyone into hell.

3) why stop at dreams? Why not manipulate traffic lights? Why not manipulate meteors to crash into earth? why not manipulate other demons to kill everyone? Why not manipulate entire world governments to create nuclear holocaust? hy not manipulate animals to kill everyone?

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^ dreams can be affected by external things. Lucid dreaming proves this totally, as I was at one point great at manipulating my own dreams. And there are limits.

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but external things like room temperature and etc.. influence your thoughts and the level of difficulty. And i also discovered that when its freezing in my room during winter, my dreams take place during fall... I don't know why. Also, if a person says something to you when you are asleep but lucid, there words can become pseudoreality in your head...

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So satan can't manipulate dreams but can he make you dream the small things which you would never want to dream of?

The other night I had a weird dream and it was harry potter-esque. And one of the characters (bellatrix) said to me "you don't believe in Christ" a few times. I'm worried about that and I don't know whether it was my consciousness or satan that made me dream this. I'm worried and I would appreciate it if someone explains this.

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I would not say he can manipulate the dreams but I will say he can place thoughts in your head. I believe he is allowed only so much by what God let's him do. I think thoughts can be placed in your head but he can no dictate what you choose to do. As for dreams I know God allowed Satan to inflict sores and things on Job so I believe he allows the Devil to place dreams in our heads too.

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Sure one can dream about their day's activities but Satan can give bad dreams.

My advice is to pray before going to bed, resist the devil and he will flee.

2) if the devil could maniplate dreams, why not just manipulate every single human being and woman and child and animal to just kill each other while they sleep walk? Or, heck, if the devil can control your own free-will through morphean suspension? Boom; everyones a murderer, boom, everyone goes to hell, boom, the devil wins his almighty quest for glory to become god by shoving everyone into hell.

3) why stop at dreams? Why not manipulate traffic lights? Why not manipulate meteors to crash into earth? why not manipulate other demons to kill everyone? Why not manipulate entire world governments to create nuclear holocaust? hy not manipulate animals to kill everyone?[/b]

God does not permit all that the devil wants to do. The devil tried to kill Jesus when He was born through Herod but God did not allow it- it wasn't God's plan. This does not mean that Satan cannot manipulate dreams though.

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You seem to be a humanist, mpok1519......just my observation. <_<

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So satan can't manipulate dreams but can he make you dream the small things which you would never want to dream of?

The other night I had a weird dream and it was harry potter-esque. And one of the characters (bellatrix) said to me "you don't believe in Christ" a few times. I'm worried about that and I don't know whether it was my consciousness or satan that made me dream this. I'm worried and I would appreciate it if someone explains this.[/b]

perhaps subconsciously you don't believe in Christ, but, I don't think any devils or demons are after ya. Or perhaps you're just subconciously insecure with your faith for some reason.

I think it is safe to say your subconscious was doing the work there.

Sure one can dream about their day's activities but Satan can give bad dreams.

My advice is to pray before going to bed, resist the devil and he will flee.

God does not permit all that the devil wants to do. The devil tried to kill Jesus when He was born through Herod but God did not allow it- it wasn't God's plan. This does not mean that Satan cannot manipulate dreams though.

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You seem to be a humanist, mpok1519......just my observation. <_<[/b]

Christians can be humanists. Christians can also be secular. Christians can also be Jewish. Just bc I interpret much of the Bible as metaphor does not make me any less or more of a Christian than another.

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but no, the devil is not manipulating anyone's dreams. your dreams are the product of your own consciousness and perceptions. there have been plenty of people who pray before bed but still have nightmares about demons, devils, etc.

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I'm fairly certain he can not.

The whole aspect of being dead to the power of sin I would think plays a larger role.

That and the indwelling Holy Spirit.

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I was of the mind that Satan cannot read our thoughts. That would also lead me to believe that he cannot manipulate our mind through dreams and whatnot, or plant thought sin our head for that matter.

That is not to say that he cannot force us to think things using a physical means. Example: Satan can use pornography to induce thoughts of lust in a person. But I don't think that he can actually go into the mind and place thoughts of lust in our heads. That's just our own sinful and self-serving nature.

Maybe I've completely missed the mark here, but that's my two cents.

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perhaps subconsciously you don't believe in Christ, but, I don't think any devils or demons are after ya. Or perhaps you're just subconciously insecure with your faith for some reason.

I think it is safe to say your subconscious was doing the work there.[/b]

What are you saying? That I'm not saved? I do believe in Christ. What are you talking about?

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What are you saying? That I'm not saved? I do believe in Christ. What are you talking about?[/b]

no; I simply suggsted that perhaps on a subconscious level there are aspects of your faith which you either disagree with or are insecure about. Its normal to have doubts.

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Yes, Satan can manipulate dreams. It's one of the ways witch's and sorcerers speak with Satan. No joke, if you don't believe they exist then take up the arguement with the Bible.

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Yes, Satan can manipulate dreams. It's one of the ways witch's and sorcerers speak with Satan. No joke, if you don't believe they exist then take up the arguement with the Bible.[/b]

no, satan does not manipulate your dreams. You can take that up with reality.

and if Satan does manipulatevyour dreams, he must have one insane sense of humor. the other night I was naked on stage with a guitar infront of thousands of people, and I don't even know how to play guitar. AND then a t-rex chased me through the neighborhood. lol Im almost positive a morpheanic sorceress was the cause of it. lol

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no, satan does not manipulate your dreams. You can take that up with reality.

and if Satan does manipulatevyour dreams, he must have one insane sense of humor. the other night I was naked on stage with a guitar infront of thousands of people, and I don't even know how to play guitar. AND then a t-rex chased me through the neighborhood. lol Im almost positive a morpheanic sorceress was the cause of it. lol[/b]

And you can quit trying to insult people. I didn't say Satan manipulates everyone's dreams nor that sorcerers do. Lucifer can manipulate dreams though, Why not? His demons can take over people's bodies, but you don't believe in possession now either I can assume from how you act.

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And you can quit trying to insult people. I didn't say Satan manipulates everyone's dreams nor that sorcerers do. Lucifer can manipulate dreams though, Why not? His demons can take over people's bodies, but you don't believe in possession now either I can assume from how you act.[/b]

You're too defensive. You assume someone insults you when there was none. This is a sign of paranoid hypertension you might be experiencing.

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anyways, no, theres no evidence or substantial proof (theres support, yes, but not much) of dream manipulation, or bodily possession.

So I wouldn't take something theres no evidence for seriously.

Unless you like believing in myths, and therefore let most of your major life choices be dominated and predicated by dellusion.

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You're too defensive. You assume someone insults you when there was none. This is a sign of paranoid hypertension you might be experiencing.

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anyways, no, theres no evidence or substantial proof (theres support, yes, but not much) of dream manipulation, or bodily possession.

So I wouldn't take something theres no evidence for seriously.

Unless you like believing in myths, and therefore let most of your major life choices be dominated and predicated by dellusion.[/b]

I believe the Bible. Proof enough.

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I believe the Bible. Proof enough.[/b]

and the bible never says satan can manipulate your dreams either. Well, your interpretation of it might say its possible, but, eh, to each their own.

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and the bible never says satan can manipulate your dreams either. Well, your interpretation of it might say its possible, but, eh, to each their own.[/b]

Has nothing to do with interpretation.

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Can satan manipulate dreams? Can he make you dream of something that you would never want to dream about?[/b]

Think about it like this, did god enter the minds of those that served him.

If the answer is yes then saitan who is the opposite of god, could easily enter the minds of his followers or those weakend by temptations

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^Please don't think of Satan as "the opposite of God". No, God is 1000000000x greater and more powerful than Satan. Not opposite. Thank you. (I'd be glad to explain my reasoning for this if you wish)

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